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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Oh yes, this is also in the Bill....one should ask why...especially in light of the other mandates I've noted

    SEC. 321. ESTABLISHMENT AND ADMINISTRATION OF A PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION AS AN EXCHANGE-QUALIFIED HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN.

    (1) EXCLUSIVE TO THE EXCHANGE- The public health insurance option shall only be made available through the Health Insurance Exchange.

    (2) ENSURING A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD- Consistent with this subtitle, the public health insurance option shall comply with requirements that are applicable under this title to an Exchange-participating health benefits plan, including requirements related to benefits, benefit levels, provider networks, notices, consumer protections, and cost-sharing.

    (3) PROVISION OF BENEFIT LEVELS- The public health insurance option--

    (A) shall offer basic, enhanced, and premium plans; and

    (B) may offer premium-plus plans.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Oh yes, this is also in the Bill....one should ask why...especially in light of the other mandates I've noted

    SEC. 321. ESTABLISHMENT AND ADMINISTRATION OF A PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION AS AN EXCHANGE-QUALIFIED HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN.

    (1) EXCLUSIVE TO THE EXCHANGE- The public health insurance option shall only be made available through the Health Insurance Exchange.

    (2) ENSURING A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD- Consistent with this subtitle, the public health insurance option shall comply with requirements that are applicable under this title to an Exchange-participating health benefits plan, including requirements related to benefits, benefit levels, provider networks, notices, consumer protections, and cost-sharing.

    (3) PROVISION OF BENEFIT LEVELS- The public health insurance option--

    (A) shall offer basic, enhanced, and premium plans; and

    (B) may offer premium-plus plans.

    Would it be possilbe for you to repost in a fashion that doesn't make our eyes bleed???
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Nope, you folks are getting what you wanted...you just didn't know it.

    Now you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Would it be possilbe for you to repost in a fashion that doesn't make our eyes bleed???
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Nope, you folks are getting what you wanted...you just didn't know it.

    Now you do.
    You mean posts we don't bother to read because they make our eyes hurt! You've got it!
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Put me on ignore, it will make you "feel" better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You mean posts we don't bother to read because they make our eyes hurt! You've got it!
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You say that like cutting out the middlemen would be a bad thing.
    Good point CPD ... that is what he saying and he is also saying a public option would offer better choices and the private insurers could not compete.

    The thread was about single payor. Obama's HCR was not single payor ... it was an improvement over the current system yet not enough to fix a sadly broken system that has skyrocketing healthcare inflation.

    Amazed makes a point that a public option if included in HCR (different than complete single payor) would drive private insurers out of business. Exactly ... Well if private insurance making billions in profit cannot offer the same level of service and competitive rates and service as a public option would have ... they will either cut the fat that cost 30% of each healthcare dollar to run .... or become efficient and less greedy and run on a 3-5% administrative rate.

    Single payor would save American jobs, halt skyrocketing healthcare inflation and decrease bankruptcy rates.

    The HCR when it included public option would have put some competition back in the market.

    Single Payor is different than HCR and would be ideal if administered as a non profit.


    So what do we do with a sky rocket inflationary inadequate health care system that is a big money maker for private insurers and the pharmaceutical industry but leaves one in six people lacking insurance and most with insurance that is too costly and inadequate?

    The uninsured are not the deadbeats ... those people are on medicaid. (I am not saying that all on medicaid are deadbeats ... just that deadbeats find their way to medicaid).The 1 in six uninsured referenced are are usually employed or self employed. in the original HCR they would have had a choice to buy into an efficient not for profit coverage.

    Seriously HCR is a bandaid albeit at least an attempt to offer solutions ... single payor administered as non profit is the much needed solution.

    HCR has saved millions in fraud and allowed millions of people age 18-25 to be covered on their parents family policy. The public option was too much competition for the private companies dripping in fat with 40% adminstrative waste.

    Single payor is the most complete solution.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You'd be replacing a lightly competitive middle man insurance market with a monopoly middle man.

    Couldn't think of anything worse than our government, who can't even balance it's own budget, managing my medical care.
    The budget isn't balanced because we keep coming up with spending ideas, like foreign wars... and then cutting taxes to pay for them....

    As far as health insurance, it has to be an upgrade over one of the least efficient healthcare delivery systems in the free world. How do we manage to spend far more per capita than anyone else, have such mediocre results and still have 1/6 of our population shut out of the system. All Americans that believe in decency and compassion for our fellow man should be deeply ashamed.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That's a big if that you're resting your assumptions on here.
    That's the only way a national medical scheme can function and stay solvent.
    It's not surprising that almost all national health systems have this very same thing in one form or another.

    Nationalize medical care is not a magic genie, a silver bullet or any other fanciful creation it's proponents make it out to be.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Nationalize medical care is not a magic genie, a silver bullet or any other fanciful creation it's proponents make it out to be.
    I don't think that is what people are making it out to be. They are simply saying it is a superior system to what we have.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    The budget isn't balanced because we keep coming up with spending ideas, like foreign wars... and then cutting taxes to pay for them....
    Actually our 2 biggest budget problems are Medicare and Medicaid, our experiment with national medical care.

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    As far as health insurance, it has to be an upgrade over one of the least efficient healthcare delivery systems in the free world. How do we manage to spend far more per capita than anyone else, have such mediocre results and still have 1/6 of our population shut out of the system. All Americans that believe in decency and compassion for our fellow man should be deeply ashamed.
    The first part is a lie, as for the rest, the U.S. has some of the best cancer survival rates in the world.
    (We're in the top 3, a cute little statistic that some people like to forget)
    That is were your money is going.

    Don't try to play emotional games with me, it won't work.
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