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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    That is not how the current bill is structured.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It can if we make it more cost effective and efficient. With UHC the cost of profit does not factor, as it is a service and not a for profit enterprise. Even so, we could allow states to manage their own healthcare system if we had to. A large part of the demand is people coming in for routine physical maintenance, something that doesn't necessarily require an MD. Certain states and countries allow clinical pharmacists to see patients and write prescription for maintenance drugs while MDs can use their time in more serious areas (like the ER or complicated diagnosis). There are cost cutting measures that we can take, taking profit out of the equation can lower costs, and it is feasible.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    That is not how the current bill is structured.
    The current bill also does not have any protocol for UHC. I do not like Obama's healthcare bill and I want it repealed and replaced with something real.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It doesn't if they're jobs are insulated with some sort of tenure.
    That's par for the course with these type of things.

    They are seated, typically for life (or the duration of their career) and they are free to "judge" unmolested.
    That's a big if that you're resting your assumptions on here.

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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Why do you think it contains the following provisions?

    1) No pre-existing condition exclusions
    2) Mandated uniform coverages.
    3) Mandated uniform premiums .
    4) Mandated, Federally funded exchanges to CONTROL these practices.

    QUOTE=digsbe;1059355657]The current bill also does not have any protocol for UHC. I do not like Obama's healthcare bill and I want it repealed and replaced with something real.[/QUOTE]
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Why do you think it contains the following provisions?

    1) No pre-existing condition exclusions
    2) Mandated uniform coverages.
    3) Mandated uniform premiums .
    4) Mandated, Federally funded exchanges to CONTROL these practices.

    QUOTE=digsbe;1059355657]The current bill also does not have any protocol for UHC. I do not like Obama's healthcare bill and I want it repealed and replaced with something real.
    That is not the same as a single payer universal healthcare system. What it is is forcing insurance companies to cover people, and forcing individuals to buy insurance. Essentially it allows insurance companies to charge as much as they want to because you are not forced to buy their product. This isn't a single payer system, and it's only universal because they have made it mandatory to buy a product from a company.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    I have been saying this since Obama signed this monstrosity.

    EVERYONE (except for the writers) have been guilty of shortsightedness....this affliciton serves those who WANT the single payor system.

    Those provisions are DESIGNED to drive Private Carriers out of the Market place.




    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That is not the same as a single payer universal healthcare system. What it is is forcing insurance companies to cover people, and forcing individuals to buy insurance. Essentially it allows insurance companies to charge as much as they want to because you are not forced to buy their product. This isn't a single payer system, and it's only universal because they have made it mandatory to buy a product from a company.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Those provisions are DESIGNED to drive Private Carriers out of the Market place.
    You say that like cutting out the middlemen would be a bad thing.

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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    I have been saying this since Obama signed this monstrosity.

    EVERYONE (except for the writers) have been guilty of shortsightedness....this affliciton serves those who WANT the single payor system.

    Those provisions are DESIGNED to drive Private Carriers out of the Market place.
    Regardless of how it's designed, it doesn't provide for a single payer universal healthcare system. I want a single payer healthcare system and this doesn't serve me at all (nor do I agree with it). I'm not defending Obama's healthcare bill.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You say that like cutting out the middlemen would be a bad thing.
    Depends who's cutting and what the result would be....
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    You say that like cutting out the middlemen would be a bad thing.

    I have a full understanding that the Gov is in no way capable of administering anything like this.
    SSI.
    Medicare.
    Medicaid....and on and on and on...

    Regardless of how it's designed, it doesn't provide for a single payer universal healthcare system. I want a single payer healthcare system and this doesn't serve me at all (nor do I agree with it). I'm not defending Obama's healthcare bill.

    I mean absolutely no offense, thats EXACTLY the view I am talking about...this stes the STAGE for your single payor system....they knew they could NOT get it all immediately.

    I am not acuusing you of defending this thing, I am telling you that the plan is set in motion for what you want.
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