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    Re: Are you buying Iodine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    People who buy iodine also buy survival seed vaults and gold.
    The govt owns all the seeds, so forget it. You are ****ed!
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    Re: Are you buying Iodine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Before lecturing others on properly handling themselves, look in the mirror. You just said a possible outcome was a nuclear explosion. Please, where is your source claiming mushroom clouds are imminent?
    Ya... a POSSIBLE outcome of a plutonium reactor meltdown IS a nuclear explosion (NOT like a nuclear bomb, but more like an explosion of nuclear material)

    I DID NOT say that these things are IMMINENT... I said that these things are POSSIBLE.

    I am saying that it is prudent to be PREPARED, but it is FOOLISH to panic. We are being told in the media that this all is not a big deal... while, I'm afraid that this is ALREADY a pretty big deal and there's still a chance that these things can go from bad to worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the hydrogen explosions were caused by venting radioactive gas into the space above the reactor, had they knocked the rods out from their blockers (they didn't), they would have been pushed down.

    irrespective, the rods are still where they were; it's just that they are now partially melted in at least 3 and possibly 4 of the plants.
    You COULD be right... since I've never been there I gotta go from what's been reported on, also what other experts in the respective fields have to say on the matter. That said... when you look at the explosion on the second facility 6 days ago now, you can SEE the debris coming back down... that containment facility, hell, I don't know of ANYTHING made by man that could withstand the explosion that you saw there.

    Others have pointed out that the debris coming back down is very likely to be spent fuel rods... and that's where I got that from, so I do HOPE that I stand corrected. HOWEVER, the media and governments have NOT been very forthcoming...

    Untill that japanese diplomat broke down and conceded that the cover-up cannot continue, that radiation levels are exceptionally high and the matter is completely beyond control.

    Which, to me at least sounds like fighting a losing battle.

    That said, please, people, let's not pretend that ANYTIME there's a nuclear incident that it's 'not a big deal'.... and by that I mean something to be concerned about NOT PANICKING about.

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    Re: Are you buying Iodine?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    You COULD be right... since I've never been there I gotta go from what's been reported on, also what other experts in the respective fields have to say on the matter.
    i could indeed be right. look man; i'm not bragging here, but right now this is my job, alright? trust me on this one.

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    Re: Are you buying Iodine?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ya... a POSSIBLE outcome of a plutonium reactor meltdown IS a nuclear explosion (NOT like a nuclear bomb, but more like an explosion of nuclear material)

    I DID NOT say that these things are IMMINENT... I said that these things are POSSIBLE.

    I am saying that it is prudent to be PREPARED, but it is FOOLISH to panic. We are being told in the media that this all is not a big deal... while, I'm afraid that this is ALREADY a pretty big deal and there's still a chance that these things can go from bad to worse.
    Your posts are nothing but panic.

    I am far more likely to die of heart disease, a car accident, or a doctor's mistake tomorrow then I am to ever be effected by this incident. It therefore does not require my attention.

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    Re: Are you buying Iodine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Your posts are nothing but panic.

    I am far more likely to die of heart disease, a car accident, or a doctor's mistake tomorrow then I am to ever be effected by this incident. It therefore does not require my attention.
    As I said before, 10-20-30 years from now when you or your children develop a cancer because you decided to do nothing, I'm certain that there will be something else to blame it on...

    I'm NOT suggesting a panic... I'm suggesting that people PREPARE themselves IN CASE the radiation detectors start going off the charts when the radiation from the BIG explosion on the 14th gets to America through the jet stream...

    Ok, look, my position is just too nuanced, you're trying to fit it in a black or white box when the truth is I'm looking at this all in shades of grey.

    It'd be like if your house was on fire and I came in to try to get you out of there and you try to tell me 'oh it's just a bit of smoke, it's no big deal'... and I'm like "umm... ya, you should do something, if you just sit here the house will probably collapse before the firefighters put it out..." and you turn and tell me "whatever" and go back to watching tv or whatever.

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    Re: Are you buying Iodine?

    Iím buying 2 32oz bottles of High Life and some Flaming Hot Cheetos Fries!
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    Re: Are you buying Iodine?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    As I said before, 10-20-30 years from now when you or your children develop a cancer because you decided to do nothing, I'm certain that there will be something else to blame it on...
    quick question. if i were to ask you to tell me what a sievert is, would you be able to tell me?

    It'd be like if your house was on fire and I came in to try to get you out of there and you try to tell me 'oh it's just a bit of smoke, it's no big deal'... and I'm like "umm... ya, you should do something, if you just sit here the house will probably collapse before the firefighters put it out..." and you turn and tell me "whatever" and go back to watching tv or whatever.
    actually it's more like if you saw his cousin eat a donut and instantly assumed that his insurance premiums would climb due to his increased likelihood of death by early heart attack.

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    Re: Are you buying Iodine?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    quick question. if i were to ask you to tell me what a sievert is, would you be able to tell me?
    Honestly, I went to check out what a sievert is, and this is precisely what I'm talking about...
    But look at what's being reported, now, this is in japan, they are saying they are finding contaminated water the equivalent radiation being 1/26th the radiation of an x-ray per litre... BUT, if you drink that water then it is radiating you from the inside UNTIL your body processes it, so, that 1/26th of an x-ray may turn out to be equivalent to MULTIPLE chest x-rays... NEITHER of these will necessarily kill a person BUT especially over time will increase the likelihood of developing cancer.

    The further out it spreads the more will fall down to the ground, which in this case will be mostly into the oceans... but this will amount to an increase in radiation exposure that will be lasting for YEARS... and if there is a spike in the radiatioactive iodine that gets detected, well, it would be prudent to protect yourself as best you can.

    But taking a thyroid protective dose of iodine is only a limited type of protection... and if it's taken inappropriately can cause other harm... so, ya... again it comes down to, better to be prepared and not need to be, then to not be prepared and hope for the best.

    actually it's more like if you saw his cousin eat a donut and instantly assumed that his insurance premiums would climb due to his increased likelihood of death by early heart attack.
    Ya, ok, my analogy is an extreme example... but the point is that this isn't a 'nothing' thing.

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    Re: Are you buying Iodine?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Honestly, I went to check out what a sievert is, and this is precisely what I'm talking about...
    it's precisely what i'm talking about. now go look up the highest level of radiation thus far recorded when the rods were fully exposed (successful pumping ops now being underway, though they may have to vent more hydrogen at plant 3; we'll see).

    But look at what's being reported, now, this is in japan, they are saying they are finding contaminated water the equivalent radiation being 1/26th the radiation of an x-ray per litre... BUT, if you drink that water then it is radiating you from the inside UNTIL your body processes it,
    yes. I-131 takes on average about 8 hours to break down inside the human body.

    so, that 1/26th of an x-ray may turn out to be equivalent to MULTIPLE chest x-rays... NEITHER of these will necessarily kill a person BUT especially over time will increase the likelihood of developing cancer.
    dude. stepping into the sun and standing there for 15 minutes will increase your chances of developing cancer about as much as drinking a glass of that water. and that's ground contamination from the water table. not thousands of miles away after this thing has been dispersed into the entire effing pacific ocean.

    The further out it spreads the more will fall down to the ground, which in this case will be mostly into the oceans...
    that depends on the winds.

    but this will amount to an increase in radiation exposure that will be lasting for YEARS... and if there is a spike in the radiatioactive iodine that gets detected, well, it would be prudent to protect yourself as best you can.
    well you've probably absorbed more sitting in front of your computer typing this reply than you would in the states from a spike event here.

    Ya, ok, my analogy is an extreme example... but the point is that this isn't a 'nothing' thing.
    yes, it is. it's like refusing to go swiming because of potential attack by sharks with laser beams on their heads.
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    Re: Are you buying Iodine?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    it's precisely what i'm talking about. now go look up the highest level of radiation thus far recorded when the rods were fully exposed (successful pumping ops now being underway, though they may have to vent more hydrogen at plant 3; we'll see).
    Just note how many of these I agree with here...
    First, here, Yes... I agree. The greatest threat is, by a margin the Japanese people closest to the nuke plants.
    That said, the governments and media have NOT been very forthcoming.

    Second, I've been saying, it's prudent to be prepared for yourself and your children IN CASE that radiation from the big explosion gets recorded as much higher then was reported.. but EVEN IF YOU ARE prepared, it is NOT the time to start taking it. Can cause more problems hitting your thyroid like that then the radiation so far.

    yes. I-131 takes on average about 8 hours to break down inside the human body.
    This one I'd agree, but are you talking about if it gets absorbed by the thyroid or bypasses it (assuming one had protected themselves)?

    I'll assume you meant no matter what... that's 8 hours that this radiation is affecting you internally... and people typically drink more then a liter of whatever in any given day. Now, Every 2 litres works out to close to a chest x-ray of a radiation dose... how many days can you do that in a row??

    How many days does it take for radiation levels to dissipate again?

    [quote]dude. stepping into the sun and standing there for 15 minutes will increase your chances of developing cancer about as much as drinking a glass of that water. and that's ground contamination from the water table. not thousands of miles away after this thing has been dispersed into the entire effing pacific ocean.[quote]

    Yes, I agree... mostly... a good exposure to the sun is healthy and necessary, it's the majority of people that are vitamin D deficient...



    Here's a distinction that I'm making that people aren't seeming to realize : Yes, this dose of radiation that will come from this disaster is at it's worst the closer to the plant itself.

    What parts of it get caught in the jetstream DO disperse... and there is a low level fallout that will spread the earth for YEARS, like what happened after Chernobyl... and so there is going to be an increase in radiation levels... the worst time is going to be the FIRST revolution around the earth that this radiation goes... and even though I do NOT think that this is anything worth panicking about, the radiation readings are off the scale one prefecture over in Japan, even though they are not releasing the data around fukushima.

    I don't believe that's being done because the radiation levels are "safe" as we're being sold.

    that depends on the winds.
    Ya, the prevailing winds are easterly... the jetstream as well...

    well you've probably absorbed more sitting in front of your computer typing this reply than you would in the states from a spike event here.
    They only reported radiation readings in the US based on what got here from the 'mini' explosion that happened, NOT the number 3 reactor explosion. The one captured by a japanese child or it would have probably been covered up and never discussed.

    But, yes, I agree.... for the 37th time, I'm not living in the fear that you seem to think I am.

    yes, it is. it's like refusing to go swiming because of potential attack by sharks with laser beams on their heads.
    Meanwhile, by the sounds of things, it'd be the equivalent of you trying to tell me that shark teeth CANNOT hurt you when they got the laser pointers on their heads, and the water is chummed.

    If I had to put it on a scale, of 1 - no big deal to 10 - get in your underground bunker and pray... this event is probably a 3-4. It's foolish to call it a 1... it's ALSO foolish to call it a 10... and that's not a variation of what I was saying before... even though you guys make it out like I'm putting this as an 8 or a 9.

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