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    Re: Is Palin's political career over?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    do you deny there are left leaning posters in here who firmly believe Palin will be the 2012 GOP nominee?
    Very few that I know of. Maybe one or two. There are many more, including myself who would like to see her get the nod, but I think we mostly don't think it likely.
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    Re: Is Palin's political career over?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I was just reading a few articles about Palin... It seems she is arguing with Fox News, Roger Ailes, and Bill O'Reilly.

    Analysis: Sarah's static with Fox - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com

    Weekly Standard says, she is becoming Al Sharpton.

    Palin: "Cocked-Fist Self-Pity And Whining" - The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan

    What do you think, does she have a chance to be president or to have a political career?
    Back in the 70s there was another politican that the supposed "intellecutuals" from both parties denounced as an "embrassesment", I believe his name was Ronald Reagan. Just like Reagan, Mrs. Palin has the gift to speak to the common person and talk on their level with no condescension and his popularity caused much the same grinding and gnashing of teeth from ALL THE SMART PEOPLE.

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    Re: Is Palin's political career over?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Minority...this removes or at least reduces the "historic" notion of the campaign. Strategically speaking, it reasonable to suggest people who are previously not interested in voting might do so if they feel it will be a "historic" event or a part of "history". By allowing your ticke to fall in that same fashion you reduce the appeal of this.
    That really bothers me... I always felt McCain picked her in part because she was a minority... I don't care what Obama's race is. I don't care what's between Sarah Palin's legs... I just want a good candidate.

    Yeah.. I always did think her gender had something to do with McCain's pick.. but I also felt that by him picking a minority it was by default suggesting (like many other people did) that the only reason anybody liked Obama was just because of his race. The only reason "the black vote" voted for Obama, was race... the only reason he beat Hillary was because of race.

    That's just utter BS, and if McCain really did pick her because of identity politics and then accused Obama of being sexist and playing the race card, then it was a political ploy and that makes McCain the actual sexist and a race baiter...

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    Re: Is Palin's political career over?

    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Back in the 70s there was another politican that the supposed "intellecutuals" from both parties denounced as an "embrassesment", I believe his name was Ronald Reagan. Just like Reagan, Mrs. Palin has the gift to speak to the common person and talk on their level with no condescension and his popularity caused much the same grinding and gnashing of teeth from ALL THE SMART PEOPLE.
    Ok then... go vote for Palin... she isn't going to get elected no matter what.

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    Re: Is Palin's political career over?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Ok then... go vote for Palin... she isn't going to get elected no matter what.
    Wow...Walter is engaging in a serious logical fallacy here.

    1) Reagan was someone who intellectuals derided. Reagan was successful.
    2) Palin is also someone who intellectuals derided. Therefore Palin will be just like Reagan!

    Anyone else see the problem here?
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is Palin's political career over?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Wow...Walter is engaging in a serious logical fallacy here.

    1) Reagan was someone who intellectuals derided. Reagan was successful.
    2) Palin is also someone who intellectuals derided. Therefore Palin will be just like Reagan!

    Anyone else see the problem here?
    Did intellectuals deride GWB?

    He was no Reagan... not even by GOP standards...

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    Re: Is Palin's political career over?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    she doesn't have to bother. all she has to do is exist and they will go after her. even if she is never a candidate ever again, they will still keep attacking her and bringing her up.
    not at all true --- the day she leaves politics is the day no liberal in the world cares if she lives or dies
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    Re: Is Palin's political career over?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    that the only reason anybody liked Obama was just because of his race. The only reason "the black vote" voted for Obama, was race... the only reason he beat Hillary was because of race.
    I think you're incredibly naive about politics and political science/strategy if you believe that there wasn't a segment of the population (and I mean that completely generically, not specifying a particular segment) that voted for Obama because of his race, voted for McCain because of Obama's race, voted for Obama because they'd be part of something "historic", voted for Obama because it was "Cool", voted for McCain based on nothing but him having been in the military, voted for Obama because he was handsomer, voted for McCain because he was older, voted for Obama because he was younger, etc.

    The voting public, especially in presidential elections, is not equal to the political active segment of the population. Everyone that votes doesn't do so due to a strong feeling on issues or a thorough understanding of the various parties. Superficial reasons do factor in for some people, even providing the conscious or subconscious primary motivations.

    As far as the race issue alone, you can not sit here with a straight face and tell me that the man who later had a song made about him called "My President is Black" did not receive some votes simply because individuals felt that he was the same race as them and thus would identify with their desires better and expect me to believe it. Do I think it was a sizable thing that single handedly swept him into office? No. But I think its ridiculously ignorant of political reality to suggest there weren't people that did do it.

    Simple fact is politics is not simply about the issues, and talk to any political strategist and they'll tell you the same.

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    Re: Is Palin's political career over?

    I don't think Palin wants to be a politician. That would require actual effort and hard work that she has already shown she doesn't want... i.e., she loved running for governor, hated having to do the actual job.

    Palin wants to be a celebrity. She wants crowds, fans, followers, adulation. She can get all of that she wants without inconveniencing herself by actually, you know, doing a job. She can sign books. Do tv talk shows. Dance with the Stars.

    She just wants to be a celebrity, and hell, if Lindsey Lohan can manage that, so can Palin.

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    Re: Is Palin's political career over?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    considering how many lefties on the board desperatly want her to win the GOP nomination in 2012 (and completely believe she will), the current poll results must be in error.
    They are completely consistent. Sure, Palin is every lefties fantasy pick, that is if you want to ensure a cakewalk for Obama. No one, however, thinks she has a shot of getting the nomination, even if her bottomless ego compels her to run.

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