Ok, I'm done answering alot of your questions Elijah. It seems to me that every single thread that I have ever seen you post in regards to the law, police, and court system is all about "poor <insert your percieved victim here>". You really come across as someone who wants anarchy. I've argued with people like that before and I've gotta tell you, it is NEVER satisfying to do so. It is much like argueing with John Lear about there being snow capped mtns and lakes and breathable air on the far side of the moon.
And in case you don't believe me about him....
And yes...I HAVE argued with him about it.
I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang
My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang
Defining what is meant by "wrongful" accusation is difficult, though, and many times the cop has to work with what he sees and he can't see the whole story.
Like, how was the cop in Cambridge supposed to know the bigot he was arresting for disorderly conduct was a personal friend of the racist in the White House? Should that officer have to pay the bigot's costs just because he's well connected?
In other cases not so clearly defined, was the cop's mistake deliberate or just human error? The man's on the street, it's not in the nature of cop work for everyone he arrests to be guilty all the time. That's what the courts are for.
So, while Mayor Snorkum agrees with your position whole heartedly, there's going to be problems applying it.
Oops, Mayor Snorkum is being rightly cynical again. But there has to be a reason the fine for riding alone in the car pool lane is $272 dollars, not $270 and not $275, or, better yet, since no harm is done, $10.
Of course not, it would weaken the police extremely, their effectiveness would go down tremendously, and it would hinder their ability to pursue cases.
If there's a god, damn it she won't mind.
If there's a god, baby she won't mind.
- Police officers should not be held personally responsible for discharging their duties within the confines of those duties and responsibilities.
- Just because the state decides not to prosecute doesn't mean you were falsely arrested...nor does it mean you are innocent.
- Just because you're found not guilty doesn't mean you were falsely arrested...nor does it mean you're innocent.
- Everything that happens to you is not recompensable. There is cost to living life.
Thank you, Quazi!
Right now, police officers can be sued. But to say they should pay out of their pockets if a defendant is acquited is silly.
I suppose it's no surprise that the attorneys who advise and direct the police officers are not responsible and don't get sanctioned. In Fort Collins, Colorado, a court held, on review, that a man had been improperly convicted of murder. They didn't say he was innocent but said documents and evidence had been improperly concealed. The two attorneys involved got a really, really harsh finger shaking. The detective is still going to court facing criminal charges and I'm sure he will be sued personally.
The two attorneys had since that trial become judge and the attorneys running the system had no problem with that but voters recently turned them both out of office.
ElijahGalt: "I know I was pissed when the cops pulled me over and charged me with a false crime. I was on my way to work and I could have lost my job. Thank God I didn't, but I did lose a day's worth of pay and that isn't cheap. My lawyer's fees are also not cheap and if since I'm completely innocent, why is it my obligation to just eat the costs? If not the police officers, perhaps the courts should retrospectively pay all my costs that I've accrued thanks to their ridiculous laws and incompetent enforcers."
Tantalizing but, no, I'm not prepared to change the system because you were pissed. You can file a complaint to recover your expenses. You're days wages, if they were actually lost, should be recoverable. As for attorney's fees, that's up to the attorneys.
Last edited by Patrickt; 03-14-11 at 08:09 AM.