View Poll Results: If you support workers ability to collectively bargain, what do you support?

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  • Workers have to join a specific union in order to get a job.

    8 11.27%
  • Workers have to join any workers union in order to get a job.

    4 5.63%
  • Workers don't have to join a union in order to get a job

    38 53.52%
  • Workers have to pay union dues in order to get a job.

    11 15.49%
  • Workers do not have to pay union dues in order to get a job.

    30 42.25%
  • Workers can form a different union if they do not like the unions that are avaliable.

    28 39.44%
  • Votes to join a union or other union related votes not being anonymous.

    3 4.23%
  • Votes to join a union or other union related votes being anonymous.

    33 46.48%
  • other.

    9 12.68%
  • I oppose unions.(please specify if it's all unions or just public sector unions you oppose).

    29 40.85%
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    Re: Those who support workers ability to collectively bargain what do you support?

    I don't think you should be forced to join a union but I do believe you have the right to if you want.

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    Re: Those who support workers ability to collectively bargain what do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    I oppose unions, think no worker should be forced to join a union, and think no worker should be subjected the threats or harrassment to force his decision in a union election.
    Divide and Conquer
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    Re: Those who support workers ability to collectively bargain what do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Couldn't have anything to do with the crap cars they were designing, could it? What did the UAW do to make the Chrysler 200 a pale imitation of a Mercedes? Or a Chevrolet a re-badged Korean Daewoo? I know the big corporations are desperate to find someone to pin their monumental failures on, but the unions aren't it. Poor management, profit milking, lack of investment in product development, entrenched lock-step relations with the oil industry and poor competitor monitoring are the reasons the US motor manufacturers went belly-up. Don't blame it on the unions just because it's the fashionable thing to do these days - blame the wrongs of the world on the unions, not on crap capitalists.
    The people doing the blaming got their own jobs the way these incompetent Motown Bizz Skool grads got theirs. Besides that solidarity with fellow corporate flunkies, their other reason was to get even. Because they lived like little boys while in college, since they weren't being paid to be there, they got extremely jealous of unionized 18-22 year olds who had money, cars, and dates. Revenge of the Brown-Nosing Wimps. Rewards: trophy wives and trophy lives. But their glorified status is nothing but a hood ornament on a clunker.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Those who support workers ability to collectively bargain what do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    The people doing the blaming got their own jobs the way these incompetent Motown Bizz Skool grads got theirs. Besides that solidarity with fellow corporate flunkies, their other reason was to get even. Because they lived like little boys while in college, since they weren't being paid to be there, they got extremely jealous of unionized 18-22 year olds who had money, cars, and dates. Revenge of the Brown-Nosing Wimps. Rewards: trophy wives and trophy lives. But their glorified status is nothing but a hood ornament on a clunker.
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    Re: Those who support workers ability to collectively bargain what do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Divide and Conquer
    Is that supposed to make sense? I never joined a union. I never was conquered. For me, since I was not lazy, incompetent, corrupt, or brutal, I really didn't need a union. I realize some can't survive without extortion and violence. Some people can live by working but some either don't know how or simply aren't willing.

    Have you ever noticed the similarity in language between organized crime and unions. Rats, finks, stoolie. Never rat out your brothers no matter what they do. How pitiful.
    Last edited by Patrickt; 09-26-12 at 08:39 PM.

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    Re: Those who support workers ability to collectively bargain what do you support?

    No man can gripe about a shortage of voting selections, thanks James..
    So I vote other.
    I maintain that unions will always be necessary until ownership/management learns respect (decency, fair play, etc).
    I think we are ever so slowly achieving this paradigm.
    Of course, respect is a two-way street, unions need to learn this..
    So, the very imperfect world will continue, BUT when a man votes it MUST be anonymous.

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    Re: Those who support workers ability to collectively bargain what do you support?

    I recognise there are different perspectives and objectives for workers and management and thus the need for bargaining. On the other hand in many ways what is good for workers is also good for management and vice versa. I would like to see more emphasis on this in labor negotiations.

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    Re: Those who support workers ability to collectively bargain what do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    I don't think you should be forced to join a union but I do believe you have the right to if you want.
    Unfortunately, that's just not the way unions work. If you want to work in a union shop, you are required to join the union, like it or not. There are many industries where the whole industry is unionized and you cannot work unless you're part of the union.
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    Re: Those who support workers ability to collectively bargain what do you support?

    I suppose I support workers getting treated fairly and with respect. So, whatever reasonable action it takes for that to happen, I'm for it.

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    Re: Those who support workers ability to collectively bargain what do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    China has had a growth rate over 5 percent for quite some time now.

    Obviously we should look at them regarding union laws.
    More like human, civil, labor and environmental law, if we wanna score the fake (self-valued and exists elsewhere) capital.

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