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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    It would seem like you latched onto a word and are ignoring the context. I've said, in essence:
    1. We're not going to just collapse
    2. A long slow decline is possible
    3. What is far more likely is that there will be a change to the world political stage and how we adjust to it will dictate how well we end up doing down the road
    In other words, I said that the most likely option is one where we could either decline or thrive.

    You, quoting my entire post, say you think it would be a change and not a decline.

    Since I said an implosion isn't happening and a decline is possible but that a change is more likely, I think it's safe to say I was focusing on the change possibility and not the decline possibility.

    So, yeah, I used the word decline, but the possibility of a decline wasn't the thrust of my point.
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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I haven't graduated college, yet, but I believe that word there is 'decline'
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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    I have full confidence that the US will collapse within my lifetime if it continues on its current path.

    In the past 40 years, the US has aggravated billions of people. Invasion of Vietnam, the countless intrusions in other countries affairs. Iraq, Haiti, Panama and Grenada just to name 4. IF the US continues with this kind of Neo-Conservative actions, it will come back to bit them in the ass eventually.

    Not only the foreign affairs, but the US's internal stability is a serious concern to me. No other country has such fierce hatred between political parties. The viscousness of debates on this website and abroad in the US is scary. I get the vibe the Democrats and GOP really hate each other. If the right thing were to poke something the right way, I have no doubt with the serious political and racial separation in the US, a civil war could spark.

    Unless the US sees some serious social reform soon, the US will not last more than another 40 years, and I'm being very generous with those numbers.

    These are my speculations.

    So my question, do you agree the US is nearing it's last days?
    I see nothing here that, similarly, has not occurred several times during the existence of the US... and we are still around. No, this concept makes zero sense, especially from a historical standpoint.
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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    I wouldnt say 'collapse,' but I do think we are due for a major league "come to Jesus" meeting. And no I dont mean necessarily a religous revival, but certainly a day of reckoning with the path we are on. A large segment of our society has lost contact with the things that have made this country great. The rugged individualism and willingness to acheive despite all odds is not present in a large percentage of us. Too many are willing to sit back and be taken care of vs willing to go and do. Our outgo surpasses our income and our debt is staggering. We have lost a willingness to stand for right and wrong. Our borders are pourous at best. We as a country and economy are busy trying to support at least two countries with dissimilar economies. We ARE divided politically to the point where even when we have united against a common threat we are still looking to see how our response can best benefit not the country but party.

    At the same time...we have enough strength in the country that even though I DO believe we havent at all seen the worst of what is coming, we WILL survive. Im not at all sure what the future looks like and frankly I am a LITTLE surprised at how readily people write off the potential for the US to face radical change. The best defense against such change will come from a willingness to honestly assess our future and adjust accordingly. If we dont, I believe we will erode...not from without but within.

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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Economically we certainly will be depressed - this will trickle down into our influence over the rest of the world and our level of prestige. However, the US will continue to be around and continue to be in the top 3 nations in the world regardless, unless some calamity such as a civil war or invasion and take over would occur.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    What do you mean by "nearing it's last days"? I think the US will soon lose it's status as a superpower. I do not think we will be conquered and made into a colony of another nation.

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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Last Days? No. Last few decades.... yes. As a superpower I feel in 20 years we are doomed unless we get someone REAL in government.
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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    No. I don't. The U.S. always appears to be in the midst of complete social collapse. That's what happens when you keep trying to live up to the principle of 'equality' and when you live in a liberal democracy.

    No other country is any position to challenge the United States as superpower for a pretty long time, after all of us are dead. The three main contenders are China, India and Brazil, China being the closest. However, the U.S. dominates land, air and sea military power far ahead of China, our political influence is much greater since most of the great powers in Europe (Britain, Germany, etc.) ally with us in exchange for military support, our economy will recover and we still provide a huge deal of innovation and information to the rest of the world.

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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Hell NO! We are still the best Country EVER and we not gonna fail anytime soon. Dream on Haters
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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    It will decline as a global power, especially economically, but it's not going to disappear as a nation.

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