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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    I have full confidence that the US will collapse within my lifetime if it continues on its current path.

    In the past 40 years, the US has aggravated billions of people. Invasion of Vietnam, the countless intrusions in other countries affairs. Iraq, Haiti, Panama and Grenada just to name 4. IF the US continues with this kind of Neo-Conservative actions, it will come back to bit them in the ass eventually.

    Not only the foreign affairs, but the US's internal stability is a serious concern to me. No other country has such fierce hatred between political parties. The viscousness of debates on this website and abroad in the US is scary. I get the vibe the Democrats and GOP really hate each other. If the right thing were to poke something the right way, I have no doubt with the serious political and racial separation in the US, a civil war could spark.

    Unless the US sees some serious social reform soon, the US will not last more than another 40 years, and I'm being very generous with those numbers.

    These are my speculations.

    So my question, do you agree the US is nearing it's last days?
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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Excluding general economic flucuations the US will at worst suffer a similar fate as that of the UK (British Empire aspect)

    Its world wide influence will decrease as others countries rise up, not specifically because the US has declined ( a certain amount will be) but more that other countries have gained power in proportion to the US. To compare, the US economy has declined somewhat over the last few years, its military power has remained generally very strong or has grown to a degree. China's economy has grown faster and its military power has grown as fast or faster then its economy. China has risen on an absolute basis, and on a proportional basis as well. The US has had slow growth on an absolute basis, but has declined on a proportional basis. The same occured to the UK as its empire collapsed. No one today would suggest that the UK has entered its last days, it survived the absolute decrease in power and its very significant decrease in proportional power. That would be about the worst fate the US faces

    Only if and this is very remote, the coastal areas and the interior of the US begin to differ culturally on a far more significant basis could the US have its last days. That does not have a chance of occuring for at least 20 years to acccount for migration paterns that would be required for it to occur
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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    If we continue on the path we are, we will eventually collapse. However, I have faith that we'll get off the path we're on. We've already started to turn with the 2010 elections.
    One of the great things abuot hyperpartisanship is that whenever your party is on the upswing you think a new golden age is coming, thats some confidence for the future, and of course when it doesnt happen denialism comes in and you think its a perfect world anyway.

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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    One of the great things abuot hyperpartisanship is that whenever your party is on the upswing you think a new golden age is coming, thats some confidence for the future, YEP and of course when it doesnt happen denialism comes in and you think its a perfect world anyway.NOPE
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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    People have been writing America's epitaph for very long time... as in, practically since the ink was dry on the Declaration. We're still here.

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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    I have full confidence that the US will collapse within my lifetime if it continues on its current path.

    In the past 40 years, the US has aggravated billions of people. Invasion of Vietnam, the countless intrusions in other countries affairs. Iraq, Haiti, Panama and Grenada just to name 4. IF the US continues with this kind of Neo-Conservative actions, it will come back to bit them in the ass eventually.

    Not only the foreign affairs, but the US's internal stability is a serious concern to me. No other country has such fierce hatred between political parties. The viscousness of debates on this website and abroad in the US is scary. I get the vibe the Democrats and GOP really hate each other. If the right thing were to poke something the right way, I have no doubt with the serious political and racial separation in the US, a civil war could spark.

    Unless the US sees some serious social reform soon, the US will not last more than another 40 years, and I'm being very generous with those numbers.

    These are my speculations.

    So my question, do you agree the US is nearing it's last days?
    We've actually 'collapsed' several times. . .unlike other countries who 'collapse' we ALWAYS rebound - usually learning from the situations that pass and make adjustments as necessary.

    Our bottom line has never changed - regardless of how much we might not get along, it all comes back to wanting to uphold the same values. We just disagree on how best to do it.
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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    I don't think we're going to collapse. We've got too many resources and too many resourceful people to just go "kaboom."

    I do, however, think a long slow decline would be possible.

    What I think is far more likely is that the days of 5% of the world telling the rest of the world how to run their ship will grind to a halt. How well we adjust to that as a people will go a long way towards deciding how we fare collectively down the road.
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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I don't think we're going to collapse. We've got too many resources and too many resourceful people to just go "kaboom."

    I do, however, think a long slow decline would be possible.

    What I think is far more likely is that the days of 5% of the world telling the rest of the world how to run their ship will grind to a halt. How well we adjust to that as a people will go a long way towards deciding how we fare collectively down the road.
    It would just be a change - not a decline.
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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It would just be a change - not a decline.
    I didn't say it would be a decline, I said

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    How well we adjust to that as a people will go a long way towards deciding how we fare collectively down the road.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Last ages of a power...

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I didn't say it would be a decline, I said
    I do, however, think a long slow decline would be possible.
    I haven't graduated college, yet, but I believe that word there is 'decline'
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