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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    I favor but, a nuclear power industry of the free market.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    There are no stable areas in the U.S. or anywhere else.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Of course I favor nuclear power. For all those who don't know this, the "nuke" part of my screen name is from my Navy job. Nuclear power is not nearly as bad as people think it is. The media hypes up nuclear power to make it sound as if we are within minutes of a nuclear meltdown or worse, a nuclear explosion, anytime there is any mention of a problem in nuclear power.

    Now I do know that there is a difference between how civilian plants and Navy plants are run, but I also know that those civilian plants must meet many of the same requirements that I faced as a Navy nuke operator. And I know that the majority of workers in civilian nuclear plants were once Navy nukes. I also know that they are regulated by the NRC. Since TMI and Chernobyl, our government takes the safety of nuclear power plants very seriously.

    Actually, one of the things that I find most amusing about this is how much people like to complain about nuclear power being close to them, especially people near Navy cities, who fail to realize that they probably have a nuclear reactor or two operating right there in their harbor. I am currently sitting in a hotel room across from at least three (probably more), less than a mile away. They aren't operating at the moment but all of them will most likely be operating at least once in the next year, in the very place they are now parked.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Given what's taking place in Japan's reactors after the earthquake, this is certainly a topical question. Not much to add.
    Even in the face if the rare, inevitable incident, nuclear power is the cleanest, most efficient form of electrical energy we have.

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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Even in the face if the rare, inevitable incident, nuclear power is the cleanest, most efficient form of electrical energy we have.
    Yep, Jerry's completely right when we're talking about long-run consequences.

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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    25 square miles of land is likely worth far more than the nuclear plant's construction costs, especially if its not wilderness. Energy costs would be huge enough that it would not be feasible to build one.
    I don't know the ins and outs of building nuke plants, but keeping all residential occupancies 5 miles away in any direction, why is that a big deal? Just run power line/transformer stations.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Even with the risk of a meltdown or other disaster (which is quite small) I favor nuclear power. It's less harmful to us and the environment long term than fossil fuels.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I believe a better perspective is would be the least harm perspective. What causes the least harm? Living with 1800s technology and no electicity, coal, nuclear, green, etc along with the various tradeoffs and our current level of technology.

    Just because nuclear has the potential for harm, once that harm is computed and compared to other possibilities, we have an answer.

    Big blowups are bad, but if they are rare enough, they are not really a problem.
    In theory, I agree. But I doubt this risk consideration can feasibly be performed and lead to action in practize. How can we measure the damage resulting from fossil fuels, for example? Although by far most scientists on that field agree that is the case, there is not even a majority accepting that CO2 emissions lead to climate change. And even acknowledging that makes it impossible to really calculate the costs resulting from climate change (may be relatively benign, or very high, or bad for others yet not so bad for us -- depending on the models you use for the calculation). And how can we really trace back pollution related illnesses, cancer i.e., to pollution due to fossil fuels? We don't know what exactly caused the cancer, and we don't know how large the contribution of pollution was.

    So a merely rational, sober calculation of risks and opportunities, pros and cons is impossible in practize. Especially in a liberal republic where actors equipped with strong resources (like energy companies and lobbies) are skewing public opinion.

    Those scientists and administrators concerned with estimating risks rely on a formula: A risk is too high, when the product of event probability (likelihood of a meltdown, i.e.) and damage in case of the event, is too high. That means a particular procedure gets too risky, when either the event likelihood is low, but damage very high, or vice versa.

    So, because a really encompassing, sober calculation is not possible, I say as a rule of thumb that nuclear power is clearly a case when event likelihood is low, but damage extremely high -- and the product too high to justify that technology, at least compared to regenerative energies. That's why I believe those should have priority. But until they can cover a sufficient share of the demand, I guess a certain share of nuclear energy is tolerable in contrast to mere fossil fuel use.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    I see lots of female children in Japan's future.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    I am entirely in favor of it. Japan is irrelevant, any time there's a massive disaster, any power plant is going to have problems. The benefits far, far, far outweigh any potential downsides.
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