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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    2 to 3 times? I don't think so, got some links to prove your claim?
    BTW, do you think coal isn't subsidized?
    I had a link, yesterday.
    Can't find it now.

    I think we should wait, instead of dashing to nuclear, better to use gen 4 or better plants that have a higher efficiency rating on fuel usage or possibly using fusion reactors.
    Those may be available in the next 20 years or so.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Texas recently found out that CCGT has its limitations....too much demand on the gas delivery system caused the pressure to drop below what is needed to run the plants. Nukes have the advantage of having all the fuel they need already installed inside the reactor, enough to run for a year or so before needing to be refueled.
    And it is very easy to store replacement fuel on site if necessary, as new unused fuel can be safely handled. It is "spent" fuel that is dangerous.
    Certainly there are better, newer, designs for nukes, altho the PWR reactors are still viable. Can't remember the last time a BWR was built...
    I wasn't advocating just building CCGT plants, just stating that that is what tends to happen when you leave it to the 'free market'.

    In the UK, electricity was privatised in the mid to late 80's, since then nothing but CCGT and some wind farms have been added to the grid. Thus we have a supply crunch looming from about 2017 onwards, when all the older coal and nuclear power stations, built by the state in the 70's, are decommissioned.

    I agree there are technical problems with having too much CCGT, we haven't reached that level in the UK yet, but, under the 'free market', that would just be a matter of time. The government is now anxiously trying to rush reforms through parliament in order to facilitate the construction of a new generation of power stations, probably nuclear.

    But, my main point is that energy is 'special', it's not just another commodity and can not be entirely trusted to the free-market. Government has to be active in designing energy policy otherwise the lights will go out!
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Nuclear power is cheap and safe. There is no reason what so ever that any of our electrical power here in the USA ought be provided by fossil fuels.

    We should be building at least 1,000 nuclear power plants. That would be a good start.

    As big and as bad as this natural disaster was in Japan, the safety system on these nuke power plants are working.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not to mention that almost every level of it is subsidized by the government, from fuel collection to construction.
    Yeah, but what isn't? I mean even oil companies get some.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Nuclear power is cheap and safe. There is no reason what so ever that any of our electrical power here in the USA ought be provided by fossil fuels.

    We should be building at least 1,000 nuclear power plants. That would be a good start.

    As big and as bad as this natural disaster was in Japan, the safety system on these nuke power plants are working.
    We probably don't need so many reactors. But there's no reason to be scared of nuclear energy. It's very clean and reliable. We shouldn't stagnate on it either, we should always be pushing the limitations of our abilities to construct new and better energy sources.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post

    As big and as bad as this natural disaster was in Japan, the safety system on these nuke power plants are working.
    Are you sure about that?
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    But was it relevent to what Tashah had said? No, it wasn't.

    All I'm saying is that when someone wants to begin lecturing people about something, it's important to show that they are a reliable and credible source for information.

    When one imediately jumps to conclusions that are easily discovered to be erroneous in order to begin their lecture, it does not inspire confidence from the audiance that the person as a reliable and credible source of information. They tend to be ignored.

    I'm just giving you solid advice here.

    Receptiveness of the audience is a major aspect of debate. If you undermine your own credibility by making incorrect assumptions and running with them unabated, you cannot succesfully argue a position becuse people will not want to bother putting in the fact-checking efforts involved when they know the source is unreliable.
    LOL. For sheer egotism, sanctimony and condescension, your post takes the prize. Congratulations!
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    LOL. For sheer egotism, sanctimony and condescension, your post takes the prize. Congratulations!
    He was probably just trying to offer the constructive criticism you claimed you'd welcome.

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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    LOL. For sheer egotism, sanctimony and condescension, your post takes the prize. Congratulations!
    I've been way more egotistic, sanctimoniuos and condecending than that before.

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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I had a link, yesterday.
    Can't find it now.

    I think we should wait, instead of dashing to nuclear, better to use gen 4 or better plants that have a higher efficiency rating on fuel usage or possibly using fusion reactors.
    Those may be available in the next 20 years or so.
    Fusion is too far out....
    Next gen nuclear is the way to go....
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