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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    And Tokyo wasn't suppose to be subject to such severe earthquakes. Just sayin'.
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    yes, it was …
    Excerpted from “Japan earthquake is a seismic curveball” By Joel Achenbach, “Achenblog” (blog), The Washington Post, Posted at 10:20 AM ET, 03/11/2011, my added emphasis
    The epicenter of the earthquake was about 15 miles below the sea floor and about 80 miles east of the coastal city of Sendai. Tremors are common throughout Japan, and this one was near the Japan Trench, where the Pacific plate, the speediest of the earth's major slabs of crust, dives beneath the islands of Japan in what's called a subduction zone. There was a major tremor, magnitude 7.9, just two days ago - what now looks like a foreshock.

    But although this is a seismic zone, part of the so-called Ring of Fire that lines much of the Pacific, until recently it wasn't considered one of Japan's most vulnerable areas. A 2009 paper by Japanese scientists discussed the possibility of a major earthquake in this part of Japan. Science does not instantly alter public policy, however.

    The Japanese government has been prepared since the 1970s for the Tokai Earthquake, the idea of which emerged from the study of previous events along the Nankai Trough, another plate boundary that slides along the underside of Japan. This is among the most complex seismic zones in the world.

    The plate boundary off the coast of Sendai had not had a "mega-quake" in the modern era. It may not have suffered a major rupture like this for more than 1,000 years. The closest analog may be a tremor recorded by monks in the year 869, according to Dave Applegate, a senior earthquake specialist at the U.S. Geological Survey.

    I phrased my comment poorly. Certainly Tokyo is subject to significant seismic activity; but, other areas of Japan were considered to be more likely candidates for where the “big one” would strike.

    Which should humble all those who are in the business of situating nuclear power plants.

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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I believe you are wrong; the Sierra Club's “tune” has been pretty consistent for thirty-five years now.



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    Sounds pretty good to me.
    looks like I am wrong, but I did read somewhere that some members are trying to get a dialogue going. Tho it may have been greenpeace of some other group....
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    I will say no, because I believe there are other sources of energy that are safer - they just have to be researched and developed faster. I would support nuclear energy if it became absolutely necessary, but until that point I would prefer political focus be directed at safer and effective alternatives.

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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I will say no, because I believe there are other sources of energy that are safer - they just have to be researched and developed faster. I would support nuclear energy if it became absolutely necessary, but until that point I would prefer political focus be directed at safer and effective alternatives.
    R&D doesn't grant success according to some time table, not even when liberally supplied with money.
    the only alternative to nuclear is coal. Wind and solar are at best supplements, never will be alternatives.
    Coal and nuclear are base load sources, and available 24/7. Wind and solar will never be that available, and no, there are no adequate storage devices for that large a load...
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    R&D doesn't grant success according to some time table, not even when liberally supplied with money.
    the only alternative to nuclear is coal. Wind and solar are at best supplements, never will be alternatives.
    Coal and nuclear are base load sources, and available 24/7. Wind and solar will never be that available, and no, there are no adequate storage devices for that large a load...
    I think the future of energy is in some kind of artificial oil, not in any of the things mentioned above. But such an alternative will need lots of investment before it can actually become feasible.

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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I think the future of energy is in some kind of artificial oil, not in any of the things mentioned above. But such an alternative will need lots of investment before it can actually become feasible.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    I fully support Nuclear Energy. It;s about time to start building new plants here in the USA. It's clean and once Yucca Mountain is done we will have a safe place to store the spent fuel. Look at France the majority of there energy comes from Nuclear Plants and they seem to be doing just find.
    Re-read your statement.
    Something is not CLEAN if it produces such toxic waste that we have to hull out a mountain to store it. And for how many mellenia will this 'clean nuclear waste' be stored safely before it leaks and destroys the surrounding eco-system or worse?

    My truck engine does not run CLEAN because it produces a toxic gas as a byproduct of function.

    Or is this a "out of sight, out of mind" factor at work, here?

    I have family who live in the danger-zone if our state's nuclear facility has a disaster. They have special radios in their home that will notify them through a nuclear-emergency system if something goes horribly wrong and they have to evacuate.

    Yes that's "clean" and "efficient" for you - my ass.
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Re-read your statement.
    Something is not CLEAN if it produces such toxic waste that we have to hull out a mountain to store it. And for how many mellenia will this 'clean nuclear waste' be stored safely before it leaks and destroys the surrounding eco-system or worse?

    My truck engine does not run CLEAN because it produces a toxic gas as a byproduct of function.

    Or is this a "out of sight, out of mind" factor at work, here?

    I have family who live in the danger-zone if our state's nuclear facility has a disaster. They have special radios in their home that will notify them through a nuclear-emergency system if something goes horribly wrong and they have to evacuate.

    Yes that's "clean" and "efficient" for you - my ass.
    Clean as in it's doesn't spou crap into the Air. Also how many people have died to Nuclear Energy Plants and the production of the Material needed vs Coal Plants. Nuclear plants have a very good track record. It just when something does go wrong the Media is all over it. Also the Movie the China Syndrome ( which is a good movie) along with the Three Mile Island Scare forever made America fear Nuclear Energy

    Store the wast in the secure Facility or keep relaying on foreign energy sources I.E. oil.hmm am Going with Nuclear Energy.

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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Clean as in it's doesn't spou crap into the Air. Also how many people have died to Nuclear Energy Plants and the production of the Material needed vs Coal Plants. Nuclear plants have a very good track record. It just when something does go wrong the Media is all over it. Also the Movie the China Syndrome ( which is a good movie) along with the Three Mile Island Scare forever made America fear Nuclear Energy

    Store the wast in the secure Facility or keep relaying on foreign energy sources I.E. oil.hmm am Going with Nuclear Energy.
    Oh - clean as in 'it's toxic byproduct is liquid' Ok - gotcha.

    Oh - I must point out, here, that we don't use nuclear energy in our VEHICLES - we use nuclear energy to create *electricity* - I'm SURE I don't get any of my non-nuclear electricity from the Middle East. Unless you're referring to the failed notion of an electric car that portion of your argument does not apply.

    On that note - I do support us becoming a larger figure in the oil-industry - but that's not related to nuclear-production of electricity at all. Oil itself has it's drawbacks and concerns but they're nominal in regard to the nuclear-energy 'idea'
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    Re: Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    You want something as dangerous as a nuclear power plant to have no regulations?
    I think you're misjudging what he means. Free market with determine the economy using it in a given area. Safety regulations are fine.
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