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Thread: Voting on Compensation

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    Voting on Compensation

    I think compensation packages for people working in the government--appointed or elected--should be voted on. Would Bell, California, have been paying city employees $500k if they'd voted? I don't think so. Would bus drivers collect $150k in pay and overtime is there was a vote? I don't think so.

    My personal favorite was the contract that said employees got 30 minutes of overtime if they received a work-related phone call at home. "Hey, Chuck, you going bowling tonight?" "Nah, it's my night to spend all night calling people from work."

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    Re: Voting on Compensation

    For elected and appointed officials yes voters should vote on their pay. For teachers, secretaries, security guards, police,firefighters, janitors and etc should be dictated by what ever the fair market wage is for those workers.
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    Re: Voting on Compensation

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    For elected and appointed officials yes voters should vote on their pay. For teachers, secretaries, security guards, police,firefighters, janitors and etc should be dictated by what ever the fair market wage is for those workers.
    Public Union wages have nothing to do with fair market.

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    Re: Voting on Compensation

    Just as long as taxes are compensated for the income. Meaning the money must come from somewhere either raising taxes or cutting something else to make for the change in income people would vote for. Unless, it's for less then the current amount of income.

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    Re: Voting on Compensation

    I voted yes, but this also extends to all civic employees including Senators, Representatives and others feeding off the taxpayers.


    Anyone besides me wondering why the new Congress hasn't voted themselves a pay cut to help balance our budget? WTF?
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    Re: Voting on Compensation

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    I think compensation packages for people working in the government--appointed or elected--should be voted on. Would Bell, California, have been paying city employees $500k if they'd voted? I don't think so. Would bus drivers collect $150k in pay and overtime is there was a vote? I don't think so.

    My personal favorite was the contract that said employees got 30 minutes of overtime if they received a work-related phone call at home. "Hey, Chuck, you going bowling tonight?" "Nah, it's my night to spend all night calling people from work."
    Voting on compensation as you're suggesting is a very reactionary measure. What we should do is work towards our elected officials figuring out a better way to vote on compensation. And I don't know about you, but I'm content voting once every two years on a federal level.
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    Re: Voting on Compensation

    I think it would be an interesting experiment to try, I would support the idea my problem is that we might get the reserve affect.
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    Re: Voting on Compensation

    Yes, provided it is an approval or rejection of a proposed budget. And I think they should be separated by Departments.
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    Re: Voting on Compensation

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Voting on compensation as you're suggesting is a very reactionary measure.
    How is this measure reactionary?

    What we should do is work towards our elected officials figuring out a better way to vote on compensation.
    Do you mean like a super-majority vote would be required or do you have an idea what other method could be used by the politicians?

    And I don't know about you, but I'm content voting once every two years on a federal level.
    The OP mostly deals with issues handled by the States not Federal. I for one do not think a biannual election is sufficient.
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    Re: Voting on Compensation

    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wind View Post
    I voted yes, but this also extends to all civic employees including Senators, Representatives and others feeding off the taxpayers.


    Anyone besides me wondering why the new Congress hasn't voted themselves a pay cut to help balance our budget? WTF?
    It's in the works and by a Dem. Two polls you can vote in below.
    Should Congress Take a Pay Cut?
    Pay Cuts for Congress? - FoxNews.com
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