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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I found a lot of the morality questions to be purposefully ambiguous, wondering if anyone thinks the same thing. Morality is a vague term that exists in the eye of the beholder, imo.
    Some questions seemed a little weighted too in the way they were phrased, like if you chose a certain answer you're clearly a moron. LOL

    All in all though, not a bad exercise. Thanks for the link.
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    Re: Left or Right?

    Im as right wing as our Founders......as Libertarian as our Forefathers......

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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Im as right wing as our Founders......as Libertarian as our Forefathers......

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    Re: Left or Right?

    Here are my results, no surprise to me really.





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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I actually don't consider myself a neo-con. As far a "intervention", I'm supportive of it if it advances our national security interests. I know that's a bit vague.
    My own foreign policy views are rather ambiguous. If anyone is familiar with the four different schools of thought regarding foreign policy this is a good article.
    Why Obama Must Reconcile His Inner Jefferson with His Inner Wilson - By Walter Russell Mead | Foreign Policy

    I know it requires you to log in in order to view it so most of you might not be able to see the whole article, but here's a breakdown of the four schools according to this article:

    In general, U.S. presidents see the world through the eyes of four giants: Alexander Hamilton, Woodrow Wilson, Thomas Jefferson, and Andrew Jackson. Hamiltonians share the first Treasury secretary's belief that a strong national government and a strong military should pursue a realist global policy and that the government can and should promote economic development and the interests of American business at home and abroad. Wilsonians agree with Hamiltonians on the need for a global foreign policy, but see the promotion of democracy and human rights as the core elements of American grand strategy. Jeffersonians dissent from this globalist consensus; they want the United States to minimize its commitments and, as much as possible, dismantle the national-security state. Jacksonians are today's Fox News watchers. They are populists suspicious of Hamiltonian business links, Wilsonian do-gooding, and Jeffersonian weakness.

    Moderate Republicans tend to be Hamiltonians. Move right toward the Sarah Palin range of the party and the Jacksonian influence grows. Centrist Democrats tend to be interventionist-minded Wilsonians, while on the left and the dovish side they are increasingly Jeffersonian, more interested in improving American democracy at home than exporting it abroad.
    In terms of which school I most identify with, I believe i'm more closely aligned with a Wilsonian foreign policy than any other school of thought. I believe we should intervene in humanitarian crises (i.e. Darfur in the late 2000s, Rwanda in the mid-1990s, Sudan more recently, etc.) However, the recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have also colored my position on Wilsonian foreign policy a little, and I think intervention, while in some cases can and should be done, must also be carefully planned out.

    In Bosnia/Yugoslav wars, because NATO only committed air assets and not ground troops, thousands of people still got massacred and there was a massive migration of Kosovars back to Albania. On the other hand, committing ground troops could potentially also have unforeseen consequences as you are now officially engaging in war with a conventional army and nation-state and that could have severe potential political and legal consequences. I think this is the dynamic that Obama is currently having to walk a fine line over with regard to Libya.

    In cases where we should intervene, however, I believe that it should always be a multilateral endeavor with the international community behind us, and that planning and strategizing and focusing on an end game and an exit strategy are very important.
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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Here are my results, no surprise to me really.





    For someone who's "very liberal" the graph shows that you're much more of a moderate liberal, very interesting.

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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Im as right wing as our Founders......as Libertarian as our Forefathers......
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    Re: Left or Right?

    Far left, although I usually test in the middle of far left and center.
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    That seems about right.
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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    For someone who's "very liberal" the graph shows that you're much more of a moderate liberal, very interesting.
    The terms liberal, conservative, centrist, etc, really have no definite meaning, so the terms are used to describe our political beliefs in relation to the people around us. There is a general vague consensus of what the words mean, but nothing more. I labeled myself very liberal when I joined because where I live, is a pretty conservative state, so compared with the people around me, I am "very liberal", but with comparing myself to the rest of the country, I'm a pretty moderate liberal I believe. I am more of a social liberal then a fiscal liberal, I'm probably closer to a libertarian on social issues, but hey, labels are just labels.
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