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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Socially, I think I'm about as liberal as it gets. Fiscally, I'd say I'm prudent than conservative. I don't mind the fact that I pay a higher percent of my income than others, 'cause I can afford it (I give a lot to charities in any case). I support most discretionary spending, most adamantly scientific research and education. On the other end of the scale, I would probably dismantle SS and Medicare (I support welfare for those who need it, I don't support these programs as they are not welfare. I think these two programs are incredibly inefficient compared to the returns I could get on my own). I'd probably also cut a good 80-90% of the military.
    Some positions, I'd say I'm a moderate on, but not most. All those charts say I'm a libertarian leaning centrist, I think I'm more of an anarchistic liberal :P
    I agree with most of what you said, except for the military. I'm very pro-military but anti-stupid-wars. I think our military should be used as a reaction force in times of crisis, rather than in "preventive war" situations. Clausewitz always said "defense is the stronger form of war."
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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Socially, I think I'm about as liberal as it gets. Fiscally, I'd say I'm prudent than conservative. I don't mind the fact that I pay a higher percent of my income than others, 'cause I can afford it (I give a lot to charities in any case). I support most discretionary spending, most adamantly scientific research and education. On the other end of the scale, I would probably dismantle SS and Medicare (I support welfare for those who need it, I don't support these programs as they are not welfare. I think these two programs are incredibly inefficient compared to the returns I could get on my own). I'd probably also cut a good 80-90% of the military.
    Some positions, I'd say I'm a moderate on, but not most. All those charts say I'm a libertarian leaning centrist, I think I'm more of an anarchistic liberal :P
    If it helps, that all sounds pretty liberal to me. Cut 80-90 percent of the military, yikes.
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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    unless you are absolutely neutral to all issues, you gotta be either left or right of tap dead center. up or down doesn't matter....for this poll anyways.
    Does it matter? I mean what's the difference between a little bit to the left, and a little bit to the right? Also, since those terms don't have concrete definitions what is right, or left, or center to someone, may not mean that to someone else. It seems like a pointless argument to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    If it helps, that all sounds pretty liberal to me. Cut 80-90 percent of the military, yikes.
    Well, there's more to it than that. Dismantling SS and Medicare isn't a "liberal" idea by any standards. I'm not pro-union, there's other things, too. I don't think of the military as a liberal or conservative thing, honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I agree with most of what you said, except for the military. I'm very pro-military but anti-stupid-wars. I think our military should be used as a reaction force in times of crisis, rather than in "preventive war" situations. Clausewitz always said "defense is the stronger form of war."
    I agree about the crisis thing. I don't mind ramping up defense spending to today's level if we're being invaded. When we're not, I think 20% should suffice. We're not so big a country that warrants that big a military budget.
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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    I agree about the crisis thing. I don't mind ramping up defense spending to today's level if we're being invaded. When we're not, I think 20% should suffice. We're not so big a country that warrants that big a military budget.
    I think the biggest problems with defense spending are cost overruns, inherent issues with the defense procurement system, and a lot of money spent on contractors and consultants that don't actually do that much to help national security. Compared to the Reagan era, we're now spending a lot more and getting a lot less. In terms of force levels I think our current numbers are justified, but it's the costs of keeping that force in uniform that's skyrocketing.

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    Re: Left or Right?

    Neither. I'm fairly apolitical except for gay rights issues. I tend to be very economically moderate and socially moderate. The way I see it, the political spectrum is simply a differing prioritization of values.

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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    I agree about the crisis thing. I don't mind ramping up defense spending to today's level if we're being invaded. When we're not, I think 20% should suffice. We're not so big a country that warrants that big a military budget.
    If we wait until we're being invaded, it'll be too late.
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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Neither. I'm fairly apolitical except for gay rights issues. I tend to be very economically moderate and socially moderate. The way I see it, the political spectrum is simply a differing prioritization of values.
    Your avatar sure attests to you being "socially moderate". Seriously, your answer doesn't pass the laugh test.
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    Re: Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    If we wait until we're being invaded, it'll be too late.
    I'd disagree *shrugs*
    Anyway, I retook some of those quizzes, and this is where I ended up.



    Economic Left/Right: 1.12
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.21

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