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Thread: When Did the United States Lose its Prestige?

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    Re: When Did the United States Lose its Prestige?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Just to clarify: I don't believe the US ever *did* lose its prestige, in terms of being worse off. However, there are some relatively recent developments that will make us less competitive in the long term. I think the four biggest changes for the worse in recent decades are:

    1980s - The ramp-up of the war on drugs, which has devastated our inner cities, exacerbated racial tension, and caused civil wars in at least two countries to our south.
    1980s - The birth of the foolish belief that tax cuts will either A) produce a free lunch by paying for themselves, or B) "starve the beast" and force Congress to cut spending. Both of these conclusions are at odds with reality, as well as each other.
    1990s - The beginning of the Senate "tradition" of filibustering every bill by default, requiring a 60-vote supermajority for everything and making it impossible to make any necessary economic decisions.
    2000s - The incredibly self-destructive notion that we need to view terrorism as a problem that can be solved with our military.
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    Re: When Did the United States Lose its Prestige?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The US is still hands down no contest the greatest country on earth. What more do you want?
    Agree
    But we can be much "greater".
    But how do we achieve these "greater" goals ?
    Better education
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    acceptance, not so much change....this is so difficult, trying to change attitudes.

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    Re: When Did the United States Lose its Prestige?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The US is still hands down no contest the greatest country on earth. What more do you want?
    That's the kind of comment that detracts from your prestige, in the eyes of non-Americans at least, and let's face it, that's the only place American prestige can exist.
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    Re: When Did the United States Lose its Prestige?

    We lost our prestige in 1945 on the 6th and 9th of August, when we attacked two cities of Japanese civilians with the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Never before, nor since, have there been atrocities of genocide of that magnitude.

    Of course we spin it as having ended the war and saved many lives. The rest of the world has always seen it for what it really was.
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    Re: When Did the United States Lose its Prestige?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    We lost our prestige in 1945 on the 6th and 9th of August, when we attacked two cities of Japanese civilians with the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Never before, nor since, have there been atrocities of genocide of that magnitude.

    Of course we spin it as having ended the war and saved many lives. The rest of the world has always seen it for what it really was.
    The 6th and the 9th were one of the best decisions out of a list of very crappy options the US was forced to make.
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    Re: When Did the United States Lose its Prestige?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Thanks for adding nothing of substance to this thread.
    I was unaware that disagreeing with the OP's conclusion and explaining why is adding nothing to a conversation. Do you prefer people to only say what you want them to say?
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    Re: When Did the United States Lose its Prestige?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    stronger forward motion. not to be facing a crushing debt. our debt is really the only existential threat to our hyperpower on the stage right now, but it's a doozy.
    We are moving forward, and leading the way doing so. The debt is a transient problem that is unlikely to harm the country in the longterm as long as something is actually done about it. The issue with the debt is that when republicans have power, they leave it to the democrats to fix, and when democrats have power, they leave it for the republicans, and there is no sign that is changing.
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    Re: When Did the United States Lose its Prestige?

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    So, when did the United States lose its greatness. People are always talking about how the US has separated from what made it great, just wondering when exactly this happened.

    I know most of you probably think it was a gradual process, so just tell me when you think it was diminished the most.

    Thanks!

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    I don't think we really have lost our prestige. Every year has it's great points and bad points, after all.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: When Did the United States Lose its Prestige?

    I don't think we have, countries still look to us for leadership. Our policy still dictates much of what happens in the world. Even recently the Egyptians wondered where we were during their struggle. They didn't look to China, or Canada and ask those questions.

    We just have too many people with too much free time to ponder, and armchair criticize every single little breath and word ever spoken by a politician. It is so easy to have all the criticism at the ready, and none of the responsibility of decision making.
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    Re: When Did the United States Lose its Prestige?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I don't think we have, countries still look to us for leadership.
    Who? In what way anymore? I think you underestimate how much the Iraq war clobbered our prestige.


    Our policy still dictates much of what happens in the world. Even recently the Egyptians wondered where we were during their struggle. They didn't look to China, or Canada and ask those questions.
    Because they don't have a significant relationship with them like we have had. It's not because we're extra sparkly.

    We just have too many people with too much free time to ponder, and armchair criticize every single little breath and word ever spoken by a politician. It is so easy to have all the criticism at the ready, and none of the responsibility of decision making.
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