View Poll Results: Should flag burning be protected as free speech?

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Its constitutionally protected. however it cant be without consequence. if someone walks up and knocks a person on their ass (or douses the flag burner with gasoline) while they are burning the flag...well...dont put me on that jury. I would say the same thing about the whole Koran burning thing.

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its constitutionally protected. however it cant be without consequence. if someone walks up and knocks a person on their ass (or douses the flag burner with gasoline) while they are burning the flag...well...dont put me on that jury. I would say the same thing about the whole Koran burning thing.
    So you think that assault or outright murder is an appropriate response to someone exercising their Constitutionally-protected right to burn an object that they own? Seriously?
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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Imagine throwing somebody in jail for burning a flag... what would be the reasoning? something like: "You simply are not free to burn a symbol representing our freedoms." I mean, I'd love to meet a guy who burnt the flag in a boxing ring, sure. But am I that much of a hypocrite to think he ought to be punished by the law? never.

    I'm actually surprised... I thought there would be many more right-wing protesters against flag burning.

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Flag burning is not free speech, it is sedition. There is a fundamental difference between dissent and disloyalty, and I find it appalling that our courts cannot recognize this.

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Flag burning is not free speech, it is sedition. There is a fundamental difference between dissent and disloyalty, and I find it appalling that our courts cannot recognize this.
    Sorry (not really), but you don't get to pick and choose the ways in which free speech is upheld. The First Amendment is pretty clear on that. If people want to show disloyalty, they can be my guest. They still have to pay taxes and support the country even if they hate it. Maybe they should just leave the U.S. if they don't like it. On the other hand, maybe if you don't like their rights to free speech, you should move to a country that supports charging crimes for sedition? I think Iran and China are pretty good choices for that one.

    That's the thing about freedom. People aren't always going to do what you want them to do, or do things that you like. Those are the consequences of freedom.

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    I can't imagine a simpler way of harming one's own cause than burning the American flag in public.
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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I can't imagine a simpler way of harming one's own cause than burning the American flag in public.
    There is one way to hurt one's own cause more than burning the American flag... and that would be the people making it burning the flag illegal. I'm not supporting flag burning obviously. But I think illegalizing it would be just as hypocritical as burning it.

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Flag burning is an expression and expression is a form of speech - so I had to vote other for that nitpicky detail.
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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So you think that assault or outright murder is an appropriate response to someone exercising their Constitutionally-protected right to burn an object that they own? Seriously?
    Would I say its the same thing? Nope. but then, I didnt equate the acts. What I said was I wouldnt be the person to put on a jury in the event someone committed such an act. I know a lot of people that fought under that flag, that lost everything, families, friends, body parts, and brothers for the right for some insignificant puke to 'express' themselves in such a manner. Should those people be inspired to respond to that expression of 'freedom of speech'...well...I'd understand. Sound too harsh? Oh well.

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Flag burning isn't really free speech but what are you going to do? I mean it is the symbol of our great land and I think it's shameful when it is burned in protest.
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