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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I view it rather symbolically.
    Ironically it's considered patriotic to burn a flag in some situations... Don't fly a tattered flag or let a flag touch the ground. Once a flag becomes "desecrated" it's time to burn it...

    I also heard a military rumor about a match, bullet, and razor being placed at the flag poles on military bases. You're supposed to cut the flag down and burn it, if the enemy is going to take the base. Don't give the flag to the enemy... but that it's just a myth
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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Ironically it's considered patriotic to burn a flag in some situations... Don't fly a tattered flag or let a flag touch the ground. Once a flag becomes "desecrated" it's time to burn it...

    I also heard a military rumor about a match, bullet, and razor being placed at the flag poles on military bases. You're supposed to cut the flag down and burn it, if the enemy is going to take the base. Don't give the flag to the enemy... but that it's just a myth
    That spawned an idea; perhaps a "National Flag Day" every year where everyone burns a flag to show their Government that they are not slaves to jingoism and then makes a pledge to universal freedom of speech and freedom of association.

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The supreme court says flag burning is protected speech under the first amendment.

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    If I ever saw someone buring the US flag while I was around I'd probably deck em. Too many died to bring us what the US flag stands for to NOT deck someone buring it.

    That said, yes it is protected speech.
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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Ironically it's considered patriotic to burn a flag in some situations... Don't fly a tattered flag or let a flag touch the ground. Once a flag becomes "desecrated" it's time to burn it...

    I also heard a military rumor about a match, bullet, and razor being placed at the flag poles on military bases. You're supposed to cut the flag down and burn it, if the enemy is going to take the base. Don't give the flag to the enemy... but that it's just a myth
    There is a huge difference between retiring a flag and burning in protest. When we burn the Flag to retire it's done in a ceremony with the UT most respect to the Flag and to what it represent. When you burn the flag in protest it usually done to show one's disrespect/hatred to what it represent.

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    There is a huge difference between retiring a flag and burning in protest. When we burn the Flag to retire it's done in a ceremony with the UT most respect to the Flag and to what it represent. When you burn the flag in protest it usually done to show one's disrespect/hatred to what it represent.
    It's still destroying a flag with fire... the intent is different, but it's ironic, you have to admit. It's actually funny...

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    Flag burning should absolutely be legal. Not sure about the ruling, but that's my decision. No compromise.
    No.

    Flag burning must be done in a controlled manner that does not present a threat to other persons or other property.

    Other than that, the flag to be burned must either belong to the arsonist or have been donated to the arsonist for that purpose.

    Can't have nuts running around burning someone else's flags, they have to buy their own. Oherwise it would have all the meaning of Jim Kerry thrownig someone else's medals over the White House fence.

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    There is a huge difference between retiring a flag and burning in protest. When we burn the Flag to retire it's done in a ceremony with the UT most respect to the Flag and to what it represent. When you burn the flag in protest it usually done to show one's disrespect/hatred to what it represent.
    Whole flags are never burned. The ceremony involves the structured dismemberment of the emblem and the reverent consignment to fire of the pieces.

    But Mayor Snorkum will guess that you knew this already.

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    It's still destroying a flag with fire... the intent is different, but it's ironic, you have to admit. It's actually funny...
    No realy Irony and not funny.

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Whole flags are never burned. The ceremony involves the structured dismemberment of the emblem and the reverent consignment to fire of the pieces.

    But Mayor Snorkum will guess that you knew this already.
    Yes I did. =)

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    Re: Is flag burning free speech?

    While I can't ever seeing myself doing it since the flag represents the ideals of the Constitution that I value, it's still protected under the freedom of speech.

    The only reason most of us see burning the flag as treason or nonsensical though is because we live in a country where the relationship between the government/military and the people in relatively peaceful. If our government somehow became more of a dictatorship and our military used against us, then burning the flag might turn into an expression against the oppressive forces, particularly if they used it as a primary symbol of their actions.

    This possibility, one that exists wherever there is a government and military, alone make its necessary in my eyes to keep such an action legal.

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