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Thread: Challenge To DP Members

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    Challenge To DP Members

    I've got a challenge for those here at the DP.

    In 99% of my posts I try very hard to not even mention a party when I respond to <insert political topic post here>. And I would dare anyone to go through my past posts and prove this wrong.

    Anyways...

    In alot of the posts around here you can see the various sides always commenting, blaming, flaming (when possible), and thinly making derogatory remarks against the opposite side.

    So, here's a challenge to everyone that is designed to promote a new form of debating at DP. That of Debating from a neutral standpoint in regards to a political party standpoint.

    Do not mention, type, hint anything about ANY party. Just discuss the topic. Its fine if a website that you link to mentions a political party. But don't let yourself mention a political party. Lets give this a try for one week and lets see how interesting the discussions REALLY get. (note that if a thread is SPECIFICALLY about a party then its ok to mention the party..just try and keep it as neutral as possible though. )

    Now I'm making this into a poll so that we can use it as a sort of "sign up sheet". If you want to try it out just hit "agree". Don't want to? Just ignore the poll or hit "disagree". The poll will be open to the public so that we can all keep an eye on each other.
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    Re: Challenge To DP Members

    BTW: Just so that we are all on the same time line the challenge will begin at the closing of the poll which I set for 1 week.
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    Re: Challenge To DP Members

    In. One week shouldn't hurt anyone. Of course there will be certain individuals who will find themselves with nothing to say.
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    Re: Challenge To DP Members

    Pfft. I do this all the time and never shut up.

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    Re: Challenge To DP Members

    What is the purpose of this and what is the ultimate goal/end result? What are the success parameters of doing this?


    The reason I'm asking is when discussing or arguing a point and the other person slings arrows (flames/trolls) the thread to death, what is your suggested action? Debating with such a person at an intellectual/factual level as you well know is no easy task.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Challenge To DP Members

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    What is the purpose of this and what is the ultimate goal/end result? What are the success parameters of doing this?


    The reason I'm asking is when discussing or arguing a point and the other person slings arrows (flames/trolls) the thread to death, what is your suggested action? Debating with such a person at an intellectual/factual level as you well know is no easy task.
    Just ignore the flames/trolls and respond to the point.

    The point is to ignore party lines and to find and respond to the actual point/problem without going bonkers about he said/she said type of political arguements. I find that it often deflates trolls and flames equally and FAST when you just respond to a point and leave everything else out.
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    Re: Challenge To DP Members

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Just ignore the flames/trolls and respond to the point.

    The point is to ignore party lines and to find and respond to the actual point/problem without going bonkers about he said/she said type of political arguements. I find that it often deflates trolls and flames equally and FAST when you just respond to a point and leave everything else out.
    Really... well, I'll make sure to PM you so you can show me how to deflate trolls/flamers the next time I'm discussing the facts or point/problem. If you can show me how that's done, I'll sign up.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Challenge To DP Members

    For some people, the only way they could do this would be to not post for a week. Some posters seem to be incapable of not bringing party/ideology into a discussion even if party/ideology is not part of the issue being discussed.

    I've done challenges somewhat like this before. Folks that don't typically focus on attacking an ideology, tend to not bring ideology into things anyway. Those that DO focus on attacking ideology get very defensive because you are eliminating their main form of debate. If they cannot attack the opposing ideology in everything they say, they really have nothing to say.
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Challenge To DP Members

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I've got a challenge for those here at the DP.

    In 99% of my posts I try very hard to not even mention a party when I respond to <insert political topic post here>. And I would dare anyone to go through my past posts and prove this wrong.

    Anyways...

    In alot of the posts around here you can see the various sides always commenting, blaming, flaming (when possible), and thinly making derogatory remarks against the opposite side.

    So, here's a challenge to everyone that is designed to promote a new form of debating at DP. That of Debating from a neutral standpoint in regards to a political party standpoint.

    Do not mention, type, hint anything about ANY party. Just discuss the topic. Its fine if a website that you link to mentions a political party. But don't let yourself mention a political party. Lets give this a try for one week and lets see how interesting the discussions REALLY get. (note that if a thread is SPECIFICALLY about a party then its ok to mention the party..just try and keep it as neutral as possible though. )

    Now I'm making this into a poll so that we can use it as a sort of "sign up sheet". If you want to try it out just hit "agree". Don't want to? Just ignore the poll or hit "disagree". The poll will be open to the public so that we can all keep an eye on each other.
    I always address other posters as individuals rather than making sweeping generalizations about liberals vs. conservatives and Democrats vs. Republicans.

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    Re: Challenge To DP Members

    This should be interesting! I agree with CC, there are a lot of posters here that have no other debate tool except flaming opposition ideology, but it really shouldn't be too difficult for most of us.

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