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    Do you support (NLRA) allowing "closed shop"?

    This question is directed mainly at pro union members. Do you support the National Labor Relations Act which allows unions to "close shop" requiring by law employees to either join the union or pay union fees within 30 days or be fired?


    Personally I feel it is legal extortion and should not be forced nor legal. True a person does not have to accept the job but why should a person be forced to pay to be allowed a job.
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    Re: Do you support (NLRA) allowing "closed shop"?

    What exactly is "pro-union?"

    I support the existence of unions but realize that constraints need to be placed upon them. And no I don't support this act.

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    Re: Do you support (NLRA) allowing "closed shop"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    This question is directed mainly at pro union members. Do you support the National Labor Relations Act which allows unions to "close shop" requiring by law employees to either join the union or pay union fees within 30 days or be fired?


    Personally I feel it is legal extortion and should not be forced nor legal. True a person does not have to accept the job but why should a person be forced to pay to be allowed a job.
    As long as it's in the private sector, I have no problems with a closed shop. If people don't want to pay their union dues, they don't have to work at that particular company. Their compensation is paid by the free market.

    In the public sector? Absolutely no.
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    Re: Do you support (NLRA) allowing "closed shop"?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    What exactly is "pro-union?"

    I support the existence of unions but realize that constraints need to be placed upon them. And no I don't support this act.
    What I mean by "pro union" is anyone that supports workers unions. As we know many people are strictly "anti union" and would like to see them abolished.

    I on the other hand consider myself neutral and am neither for nor against unions. I am however against some of the laws, tactics, and situations unions represent.

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    Re: Do you support (NLRA) allowing "closed shop"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    What I mean by "pro union" is anyone that supports workers unions. As we know many people are strictly "anti union" and would like to see them abolished.

    I on the other hand consider myself neutral and am neither for nor against unions. I am however against some of the laws, tactics, and situations unions represent.
    I'm kind of sitting on the fence on the issue of unions. On the one hand I believe that the freedom of association also includes the freedom to not associate. Nobody should pay a fee for having a job. On the other hand, there are inherent free-ridership problems when it comes to union membership. It's not a black-and-white issue.

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    Having to pay in order to get a job is idiotic in the extreme whether it is a private company or public.
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    Re: Do you support (NLRA) allowing "closed shop"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    This question is directed mainly at pro union members. Do you support the National Labor Relations Act which allows unions to "close shop" requiring by law employees to either join the union or pay union fees within 30 days or be fired?


    Personally I feel it is legal extortion and should not be forced nor legal. True a person does not have to accept the job but why should a person be forced to pay to be allowed a job.
    If you mean pro-union by do I support a worker's ability to unionize and collectedly bargain then I am pro-union. Closed shops should be illegal. The union does not own the company and therefore has no business dictating who can and can not get hired or impose a mandatory membership as a condition of hiring.An empoyee should not be forced to join a union or pay union dues as a condition of employment.


    You should have selected the option to make vote public when you made the poll.
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    Re: Do you support (NLRA) allowing "closed shop"?

    Yes I do

    Given that any employee that is part of a union shop will benifit from the work of the union regarding labour contracts (wages and benifits) they should be expected to pay dues in order to pay for the representation the union provides

    The person is not forced to join a union, he/she chooses to do so when they decide to accept a position at that place of employement (private or public).
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    Re: Do you support (NLRA) allowing "closed shop"?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If you mean pro-union by do I support a worker's ability to unionize and collectedly bargain then I am pro-union. Closed shops should be illegal. The union does not own the company and therefore has no business dictating who can and can not get hired or impose a mandatory membership as a condition of hiring.An empoyee should not be forced to join a union or pay union dues as a condition of employment.


    You should have selected the option to make vote public when you made the poll.
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    Re: Do you support (NLRA) allowing "closed shop"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The public union in Wisconsin doesn't give you a choice. You're forced to join. However, Walker's bill would give you a choice. You could decide each year and you also could choose a different HC coverage that would save the state money.
    Darn unions forcing people to work for specific places rather then finding jobs at non union places.
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