View Poll Results: If we completely left the Muslim countries, would they make peace with the U.S.?

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    Re: Would radical Muslims leave the U.S. alone if....

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did you miss the terrorists arrested in Michigan who planned to kill cops and bomb their funerals? Guess what, they where a radical christian group. That is only one example. Christians and muslims are nothing but two religions with very similar beliefs and the same drawing of radicals.
    Now there is a difference. Radical militant Christians are a tiny fringe group within the religion today. Radical militant Muslims have a large scale following and significant power and influence in sections of the Islamic world.
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    Re: Would radical Muslims leave the U.S. alone if....

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Now there is a difference. Radical militant Christians are a tiny fringe group within the religion today. Radical militant Muslims have a large scale following and significant power and influence in sections of the Islamic world.
    And see, what I see is making excuses. Both religions attract a radical element. Both radical elements can be violent. Both try and demonize the other.
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    Re: Would radical Muslims leave the U.S. alone if....

    There will be radical fringes bent on violence in any group. Atheists, Christians, Muslims, etc. However, there are no radically led Christian theocracies that seek to destroy other nations or bring about the apocalypse. Even if America left the Islamic Middle Eastern nations would still have a problem with Israel and with the US supporting them. Even if the Israeli conflict is resolved as long as Israel exists there will be conflict between some Muslims who want to destroy it. And as long as Iran believes that Israel and America are the "great and little satan" then they will be our enemies. Recalling all troops and influence in the Middle East will not solve the anger and aggression that many nations in the region have against the US. We are not at fault for some of their aggression and hatred.
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    Re: Would radical Muslims leave the U.S. alone if....

    No. A radical will steadfastly believe in his position regardless of whether situations change or not. Radicals like this are not really interested in change. They are interested in destruction.
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    Re: Would radical Muslims leave the U.S. alone if....

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And see, what I see is making excuses. Both religions attract a radical element. Both radical elements can be violent. Both try and demonize the other.
    Yes, both religions attract radicals. Almost all human movements, ideaologies, or religions can attract radicals and those radicals can be violent. But some movements minimize and marginalize those radicals. For example, politically botht he right and the left have a few extreme lunatic fringe groups that endorse violence to achieve their political goals. But both the mainstream left and the mainstream right have discredited and marginalized those fringe lunatics.

    Islam has not done that. Militant, radical Islam is not a fringe movement today. It is a vocal and powerful force in the Islamic world.
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    Re: Would radical Muslims leave the U.S. alone if....

    No. The existing radicals will hate us regardless of what we do from this point onward. They already hate us. It ain't changing.

    However, an interesting question would be whether or not such a tactic would lead to a decrease in the number of new radicals focused against the US in the future.
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    Re: Would radical Muslims leave the U.S. alone if....

    It would help but I don't think it would lead to peace.
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    Re: Would radical Muslims leave the U.S. alone if....

    Those who think radical Muslims are a group that can be assessed, haven't been paying attention to the news. AP and other news sources report that radical suicide Muslims in Iraq only did it as individuals, and we'll never really know who or why because their culture is completely different from ours.

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    Re: Would radical Muslims leave the U.S. alone if....

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did you miss the terrorists arrested in Michigan who planned to kill cops and bomb their funerals? Guess what, they where a radical christian group. That is only one example. Christians and muslims are nothing but two religions with very similar beliefs and the same drawing of radicals.
    Redress is right, I think she is referring to the Hutaree militia. The truth is every religion has its crazies.

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    Re: Would radical Muslims leave the U.S. alone if....

    The animosity against the US comes directly from our intervention into the economic matters of other people. In supporting our economic interests we have successfully managed to piss of quite a few people while hiding under the rhetoric of peace and freedom. Remove that intervention and the overwhelming majority of the animosity disappears. Radical Muslims aren't the only ones with an axe to grind against the US. As somebody who has traveled to a few counties, I've realized in a lot of the countries that have a bad opinion of the US, we've intervened in favor of their oppressors. Cuba, Liberia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Ethiopia, these are just some of the countries where people really do not like the US and one can't blame radical Islam. The only difference is the fervor and the ability to express their rhetoric. Whereas the Middle East is simply flowing with a pretty healthy base of people willing to fund terrorism, South America simply does not have the social infrastructure to do this. The elites in these nations put wealth before religion so the attacks are directed towards them. Bogota, Colombia was known as the car bomb capital of the world only a few decades ago. The rich in these countries are constantly being kidnapped for their support of American economic policies.

    In the end, radicalism in the Middle East boils down to US intervention in the political and economic matters of the region. Our support of the Sha of Iran, Saddam Hussein, Mubarak and various others dictators has made Middle Eastern youth fall back on religion because they are totally disenfranchised. Sadly, there is a political and economic elite which has been disenfranchised right along with them and are more than willing to fund terrorism.
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