View Poll Results: Should the work week be reduced?

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  • The work week should be increased to more than 40 hours, or eliminated

    19 37.25%
  • The work week should remain at 40 hours

    20 39.22%
  • The work week should be reduced to 36-39 hours

    3 5.88%
  • The work week should be reduced to 32-35 hours

    6 11.76%
  • The work week should be reduced to less than 32 hours

    3 5.88%
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Thread: Shortening the work week?

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    Re: Shortening the work week?

    The work week should be up to the individual businesses at hand to determine how many hours a week will lead to maximum productivity.
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    Re: Shortening the work week?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    This is true at my wife's job. The company was once privately owned and offered a lot of nice perks and bonuses. Nothing really expensive, but things that made for a nice work enviroment: production or performance contests that gave some recognition and reward to top performers, usually one a month every department would have an extended lunch for some sort of party or social event, generous bonuses at Christmas, a few big company parties every year. The company had a very good retention rate and many long term workers.

    Then they went corporate. All the little perks were gradually cut back and eliminated. Merit raises no longer exist, now you get a bare bones cost of living raise no matter how good or poor your performance is. The company has put in place more "policies" that regulate some of the stupidest and most minute details of the day. Salaried workers are expected to put more and more time in for no additional compensation.

    And what's the result? The turn over rate is much higher, meaning the comany has to spend additional dollars training the new hires that are constantly replacing the ones who leave. And those new, raw employees are not nearly as efficient at getting work done as the people they are replacing. Plus many of the workers who are there now have a much lower morale and avoid doing anything extra or above and beyond because they know two things. One, they won't be rewarded in any fashion for their extra effort. Two, the company will start to expect teh extra effort and make it part of their jobs without adding compensation for the additonal responsibilities. People cut corners and do the minimum because they feel the company is the enemy. Where as before the company had a real family feel and many of the employees were very dedicated.

    If you treat your employees like crap, the best you can expect is a minimal effort. Too many companies, especailly corporate ones, lose sight of this very basic fact.
    Unfortunately, most large companies focus on making as much profit as they can, but they tend to do it in negative ways. The best places where I have worked, have done well financially by following an excellent edict: treat your employees well, put them first, and take care of them, and they will treat your customers... and your business in the same way.
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    Re: Shortening the work week?

    Makes no difference to me. On salary. And I get no over time. Even on 60 hour weeks.
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    Re: Shortening the work week?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Makes no difference to me. On salary. And I get no over time. Even on 60 hour weeks.
    You need a union then.. no extra pay for overtime.. tsk!
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    Re: Shortening the work week?

    People should work a Military schedule before saying they say 40 hours is too much.

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    Re: Shortening the work week?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    This is true at my wife's job. The company was once privately owned and offered a lot of nice perks and bonuses. Nothing really expensive, but things that made for a nice work enviroment: production or performance contests that gave some recognition and reward to top performers, usually one a month every department would have an extended lunch for some sort of party or social event, generous bonuses at Christmas, a few big company parties every year. The company had a very good retention rate and many long term workers.

    Then they went corporate. All the little perks were gradually cut back and eliminated. Merit raises no longer exist, now you get a bare bones cost of living raise no matter how good or poor your performance is. The company has put in place more "policies" that regulate some of the stupidest and most minute details of the day. Salaried workers are expected to put more and more time in for no additional compensation.

    And what's the result? The turn over rate is much higher, meaning the comany has to spend additional dollars training the new hires that are constantly replacing the ones who leave. And those new, raw employees are not nearly as efficient at getting work done as the people they are replacing. Plus many of the workers who are there now have a much lower morale and avoid doing anything extra or above and beyond because they know two things. One, they won't be rewarded in any fashion for their extra effort. Two, the company will start to expect teh extra effort and make it part of their jobs without adding compensation for the additonal responsibilities. People cut corners and do the minimum because they feel the company is the enemy. Where as before the company had a real family feel and many of the employees were very dedicated.

    If you treat your employees like crap, the best you can expect is a minimal effort. Too many companies, especailly corporate ones, lose sight of this very basic fact.

    That is EXACTLY what happened at my job, after the takeover. I'm the only person left with more than 3 years experience, and the corporate types are always bemoaning why the office has dropped to the dregs in efficiency. BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY LEFT THAT KNOWS HOW TO DO THE JOB! :

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    Re: Shortening the work week?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The free market wouldn't pay people living wages during the 1910s on its own either. I guess we were all meant to starve and live like a 3rd world country.
    it didn't pay living wages in the 1910's? how did they survive?


    oh, wait, "living wage" has nothing to do with "enough to live on".

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    Re: Shortening the work week?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    People should work a Military schedule before saying they say 40 hours is too much.
    I work around 65 and usually 70 to 75 during the busy seasons.
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    Re: Shortening the work week?

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    Re: Shortening the work week?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    I think the average is like 2 weeks per YEAR, which is crazy. They want to work us to the highest efficiency possible but give us no rest and relaxation.
    It's called being an adult, this is what happens. 2-3 weeks is probably all you need off for vacation a year. Otherwise, get back to work.
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