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    Re: Alcoholism: Disease or Behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It's a chemical addiction. I don't really consider that "disease". Where I'm especially skeptical is when every non chemical habit that gets out of control (eating, gambling, shopping, gaming etc.) is, all of a sudden, an addiction and therefor a "disease". Seems like that's away to avoid responsibility.
    i don't believe it matters what you consider it.......doctors consider it a disease.

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    Re: Alcoholism: Disease or Behavior

    There is an irony to this disease view, I suppose. A non recovering alcoholic could use the disease concept to attempt to gain acceptance of their drinking by pointing out that it is a disease. But this wouldn't work with me, and it shouldn't work with anyone else. If someone was diabetic, and chose not to use their insulin and control their diet, I wouldn't be that sympathetic about the consequences. Recognizing it as a disease gives the individuals the tools to treat it, not an excuse to destroy themselves.
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    Re: Alcoholism: Disease or Behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't believe it matters what you consider it.......doctors consider it a disease.
    Dr. Lynn Appleton says that "Despite all public pronouncements about alcoholism as a disease, medical practice rejects treating it as such. Not only does alcoholism not follow the model of a 'disease,' it is not amenable to standard medical treatment." She says that "Medical doctors' rejection of the disease theory of alcoholism has a strong basis in the biomedical model underpinning most of their training" and that "medical research on alcoholism does not support the disease model." (Lynn M. Appleton. Rethinking medicalization. Alcoholism and anomalies. Chapter in editor Joel Best's Images of Issues. Typifying Contemporary Social Problems. NY: Aldine De Gruyter, 1995, page 65 and page 69. 2nd edition

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    Re: Alcoholism: Disease or Behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Are smokers predisposed to have a 'disease' as well? How about heroine addicts?

    If my younger brother is genetically predisposed to becoming an alcoholic - what happened to my sister and I? Why can we drink in moderation and he cannot? All three of us started underage drinking, difference is, her and I did it socially and minimally. My brother chose to drink his 'problems' away. I have a very hard time understanding it to be a disease that is somehow out of someone's control, when there are others who may come from the same genetic makeup and never have a problem with it.

    I'm still curious as to what other addictions are considered 'diseases'? I am positive that once a person is an addict they will always be an addict - whether that is to cigarettes, alcohol or hard drugs... but how many of these things are also labeled a disease and if that's the case - why won't health insurance help pay for treatment of these diseases?
    for the same reason that breast cancer history in a family increases your chances of breast cancer, alcholism in a family increases your chances of becoming an alcoholic. that doesn't mean you will get breast cancer, or be an alcoholic. and btw, insurance does pay for treatment for alcoholism, as for any disease. just depends upon the carrier.

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    Re: Alcoholism: Disease or Behavior

    What is the rational thing to do when you discover you have a disease?

    Get help to treat it!
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    Re: Alcoholism: Disease or Behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Dr. Lynn Appleton says that "Despite all public pronouncements about alcoholism as a disease, medical practice rejects treating it as such. Not only does alcoholism not follow the model of a 'disease,' it is not amenable to standard medical treatment." She says that "Medical doctors' rejection of the disease theory of alcoholism has a strong basis in the biomedical model underpinning most of their training" and that "medical research on alcoholism does not support the disease model." (Lynn M. Appleton. Rethinking medicalization. Alcoholism and anomalies. Chapter in editor Joel Best's Images of Issues. Typifying Contemporary Social Problems. NY: Aldine De Gruyter, 1995, page 65 and page 69. 2nd edition
    Hogwash.
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    Re: Alcoholism: Disease or Behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Hogwash.
    But I have to go to work, so I don't have time to destroy this. I hope CC does.
    Sure thing. I can't wait to hear your professional medical opinion, doctor.

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    Re: Alcoholism: Disease or Behavior

    I grew up in a house that I don't remember alcohol ever being in and my parents didn't drink. However my Grandpa was an alcoholic, I also have aunts who are (sober now)
    a couple uncles and my brother is one. My sister is not, but then I'm not sure she's ever been drunk in her life. I remember she said she drank some beer at a party in HS. She doesn't drink at all. Probably a good thing.
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    Re: Alcoholism: Disease or Behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Hogwash.
    But I have to go to work, so I don't have time to destroy this. I hope CC does.
    I don't have a like button for some reason. So I Like
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    Re: Alcoholism: Disease or Behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Sure thing. I can't wait to hear your professional medical opinion, doctor.
    a quote from wiki doesn't change the fact that mainstream medicine considers alcoholism a disease.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

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