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    In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    If you have spent any real time on this forum you're fully aware of the debate raging between those who support evolution and those who do not. There is little doubt that when examined as a whole, the majority of the scientific community overwhelmingly supports evolution as a logical explanation for the development of life. There is also little doubt that the majority of the American populace does not support evolution as explained by scientists. 78% of Americans believe God was involvement in the creation of humans either through creating us in our present form or by guiding the evolutionary process. Not surprisingly 76% of Americans consider themselves to be Christians. These numbers lead to believe that since there is little evidence for a 'debate among evolutionary scientists' the debate on evolution is between scientists and the religious. Do you agree? If not then I welcome you to support your statement.

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    This is not a debate on evolution but a debate on the debate itself.
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    I consider it more a debate between the educated and the ignorant.
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If you have spent any real time on this forum you're fully aware of the debate raging between those who support evolution and those who do not. There is little doubt that when examined as a whole, the majority of the scientific community overwhelmingly supports evolution as a logical explanation for the development of life. There is also little doubt that the majority of the American populace does not support evolution as explained by scientists. 78% of Americans believe God was involvement in the creation of humans either through creating us in our present form or by guiding the evolutionary process. Not surprisingly 76% of Americans consider themselves to be Christians. These numbers lead to believe that since there is little evidence for a 'debate among evolutionary scientists' the debate on evolution is between scientists and the religious. Do you agree? If not then I welcome you to support your statement.

    This vote is public so vote only if you're willing to substantiate your answer.

    This is not a debate on evolution but a debate on the debate itself.
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I consider it more a debate between the educated and the ignorant.
    That's trolling.
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    I don't think so, because you can be religious but still acknowledge the validity of the theory of evolution. I think Redress hit the nail on the head, its educated vs. ignorant.
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's trolling.
    Redress simply meant it's those that are informed v. those that aren't, or are wilfully ignorant, though it's funny to see that you automatically assumed she was calling religious people ignorant.
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    The scientific community is a bit of a misnomer. There isnít one on this issue, but many. And they arenít much of a community when compared to Christians or Jews. What sets scientists and some others apart is their thought process. And some can be selective as to what they apply the scientific thought process to. They can exclude evolution form the application of their thought process they apply to other things, thus believe in creation.

    Then there is the confusion that many scientists believe in evolution. That is like saying a scientist believes that 2 plus 2 is 4. (Please, donít comment that in base 3 itís not.) Most of us know that 2 plus 2 is 4. We can prove it ourselves, and it can be proven in a rigorous way that takes hundreds of pages.

    Since you donít need to be a scientist to use the scientific method, anyone can duplicate one the many experiments that prove that evolution is what got us to be what we are in all our variants. The same can be done to show that the earth orbits the sun not the other way around.

    Also, few religions donít appear to me to have an issue with evolution. So you can draw a general line ďbetween scientists and the religiousĒ but it would not be accurate enough to satisfy a scientist. In fact the line may cause you to miss a root cause; itís how we think differently. Lower than that is why do we think differently?

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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I consider it more a debate between the educated and the ignorant.
    Rather than guess, I'll just ask, what do you mean by this?



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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    There is no conflict between science and religion as far as the LDS are concerned. BYU teaches evolution BYU NewsNet - Science professors don't view evolution as an 'either-or' proposition

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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There is also little doubt that the majority of the American populace does not support evolution as explained by scientists. 78% of Americans believe God was involvement in the creation of humans either through creating us in our present form or by guiding the evolutionary process.
    The idea that a god "guided the evolutionary process" is not necessarily inconsistent with belief in evolution as explained by science. It's true that many intelligent design supporters are basically just creationists trying to cloak themselves in science, but ID and evolution are not inherently contradictory. Therefore I don't think that it's safe to assume that the majority of Americans don't accept evolution, based on that poll. I suspect that a good many of them who said that a god guided the evolutionary process were basically saying "I believe in God, and I accept evolution."

    But yeah...the people who reject evolution are morons, and simply don't understand science. There aren't two sides to the debate that are equally meritorious, because one side is simply ignorant of the issue and refuses to learn.
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