REALLY? You think that physics has not much to do with creation? Let's see you go on record.
Ummm... That's not what I said. We were talking about...
So there's no problem when the evidence from his job contradicts his religious belief? -
obvious Child
I said in responce to
THE ABOVE STATEMENT YOU MADE...
It doesn't have anything to do with his job. Physics as a field of study alone does not have much to do with evolution or creation. You are making assumptions you don't have information on. -
Blackdog
Do you know what aspect or field of physics he is in? No you don't.
Lets take a look...
•Chaos - the study of systems with strong sensitivity to initial conditions, so a slight change at the beginning quickly become major changes in the system
•Chemical Physics - the study of physics in chemical systems
•Computational Physics - the application of numerical methods to solve physical problems for which a quantitative theory already exists
•Cosmology - the study of the universe as a whole, including its origins and evolution
•Cryophysics / Cryogenics / Low Temperature Physics - the study of physical properties in low temperature situations, far below the freezing point of water
•Crystallography - the study of crystals and crystalline structures
•Electromagnetism - the study of electrical and magnetic fields, which are two aspects of the same phenomenon
•Electronics - the study of the flow of electrons, generally in a circuit
•Fluid Dynamics / Fluid Mechanics - the study of the physical properties of "fluids," specifically defined in this case to be liquids and gases
If you need more clarification, let me know.
Say for me "Physics has little to do with creation." I want that on record before I bring the real guns in.
As I pointed out above I never said anything of the kind. You are also assuming on info you don't have.
Actually it's logic's call. If the universal laws and practices we see today is not the universal laws and practices in the past and there is no evidence to support any change, how does that suggest that God is honest in the Torah or in daily life?
Please point out where in the Bible it says the "Laws of Nature" have been changed?
Actually faith is by definition a belief without evidence. Therefore, faith requires the absence of evidence. If faith had evidence, it would no longer be faith. Proper definitions are helpful.
Yes like the proper definition of "creationism?" :lol:
Every single post I have ever made about creationism (aside from the posts where I explicitly state I am discussing theistic evolution) since the very first day I started posting here.
I am sorry. I must have forgotten to memorize your posts on creationism and use of the proper definition. All I know is this time you said...
But that would result in him no longer being a creationist. Creationism only survives in education, fact free zones. Educating oneself results in a creationist no longer being a creationist, or a creationist who knows their belief is wrong, but is purely in it to milk the money from his former ilk. Doctor Snelling for example. Who has submitted real geology papers while moon lighting as a fake creationist for the paycheck. -
obvious Child
Nothing about YEC etc. Just creationism.
[It's like Navy Pride's definition of liberal. Everyone knows he means anyone who disagrees with him or any position he dislikes.
No it is not even close to the same thing. :doh
Does it bother you that you are only one in the entire thread who didn't figure out we were discussing YECs?
This is what you responded with to Spud's question...
But we cannot ignore the fact that some religious people are. <--- You implyed ignorant And some are truly retarded. This one creationist I met (a few others tangled with him) argued that the flood and Genesis was literally true. When confronted with the issue of the geological record not sorting species by mass and shape, he basically argued that water doesn't sort by mass and shape. Except that you can test this. In your sink. A 5 lb dinosaur should end up on average, at a higher strata then a woolly mammoth. They don't. Ever. The problem with some evolution deniers is that they basically have a belief that requires their God to be a greatest deceiver of all time.
Nothing about YEC etc. My responce was...
So because one person is stupid, we must not ignore this fact and judge all people on the basis that some people are stupid? OK. Your logic makes perfect sense. :doh
Had nothing to do with YEC or anything else.
21 pages of posts, numerous users. And you're the only one who didn't figure out the obvious point we aren't discussing theistic evolution.
Some of us were. In 21 pages you somehow missed that? I guess like me you did not read the entire thread? :doh
Everyone else knew we were discussing YECs. Literally. Everyone else.
Making another assumption that is not true. :roll:
Then you finish off with more personal attacks.