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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    And today, even the Catholic church itself doesn't teach the flat-earth theory anymore....so why do people still bring it up?
    I brought it up because it is another example of religious dogma being used to try to counter observation and logic. Sure, people knew that the Earth wasn't flat, yet the church tried to impose that dogma that people knew was bogus by force. Today, we have the Biblical literalists trying to support the silly "young Earth" notion. The only real difference is that they don't have the power that the church did in the middle ages.
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I brought it up because it is another example of religious dogma being used to try to counter observation and logic. Sure, people knew that the Earth wasn't flat, yet the church tried to impose that dogma that people knew was bogus by force. Today, we have the Biblical literalists trying to support the silly "young Earth" notion. The only real difference is that they don't have the power that the church did in the middle ages.
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    It's amusing when atheists like scourge99 come here with a literalist read of scripture, then try to tell me what I think as though I'm also a literalist. I say the same things to such atheists as I say to literalist believers, and the conversation usually ends with my being damned to hell or the atheist equivalent of stamping a foot and slamming the door.

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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I would be happy to offer the day-age resolution these issues, but I understand that your purpose is not to have peaceful resolution, but to persecute believers, so I read your posts with that in mind.

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    Readers should notice how Jerry fails to address my arguments.

    Readers should also notice that Jerry (still) has a habit of posting a link to some offsite web page(s) (usually of ill repute) in the hopes that spamming others with information is a substitute for an actual argument or explanation. Perhaps we should call this "Jerrying"?
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Evolution is wrong I laugh at the idea of random chance creating order and life There are scientists who believe in intelligent design and Biblical Creationism. Evolution is unproven and just a speculation as to how things may have come to be.
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Readers should notice how Jerry fails to address my arguments.

    Readers should also notice that Jerry (still) has a habit of posting a link to some offsite web page(s) (usually of ill repute) in the hopes that spamming others with information is a substitute for an actual argument or explanation. Perhaps we should call this "Jerrying"?
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Evolution is wrong I laugh at the idea of random chance creating order and life There are scientists who believe in intelligent design and Biblical Creationism. Evolution is unproven and just a speculation as to how things may have come to be.
    The theory of evolution does not offer how life began. The theory only regards how lifeforms change once life is present.

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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I wish Christianity didn't brake with the Jewish tradition of learning Hebrew. We would be able to read the original texts for ourselves, individually. Perhaps that tradition was broken by the Church, in yet another attempt to maintain total control, but I couldn't say for certain.
    I couldn't say for certain, either, but it does seem like a plausible answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's amusing when atheists like scourge99 come here with a literalist read of scripture, then try to tell me what I think as though I'm also a literalist. I say the same things to such atheists as I say to literalist believers, and the conversation usually ends with my being damned to hell or the atheist equivalent of stamping a foot and slamming the door.
    It's usually easier to invent positions to argue against than it is to try to refute a position someone has actually taken. You see that a lot on these boards. You also see a lot of people who like to make up an argument, then leap and hoot and declare themselves the winner in some unjudged debate.
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The theory of evolution does not offer how life began. The theory only regards how lifeforms change once life is present.
    I know, that would be abiogenesis. With my statement I was mainly meaning to say how species came to be.
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    There are scientists who believe in intelligent design and Biblical Creationism.
    Sure. there are scientists who believe a lot of other fringe ideas too.

    The best explanation is usually the one with a general CONSENSUS by expert in that field or a related field. Evolution is overwhelmingly supported by scientists in the field of biology, geology, genetics, etc. Evolution is overwhelmingly supported by the evidence. Cast your lot in with the fringe if you must.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Evolution is unproven and just a speculation as to how things may have come to be.
    Hardly. Evolution accounts for the evidence and has even predicted findings within geology, biology, genetics, etc.

    The problem is that you start with the ASSUMPTION that your holy-book and your particular sect's interpretation of it, is infallible and beyond question. Then, you try to work backwards to reconcile the facts with your book. Your entire worldview is skewed and perpetuated by this irrational certainty in your religious beliefs. You lack the ability to examine the evidence and reason from an objective from an unbiased perspective. A problem you can thank your parents and church for who indoctrinated you with a literal/inerrant/fundamentalist version of christianity.

    There are ways to harmonize science and christianity. But strict biblical literalism/inerrantism/fundamentalism cannot be reconciled with the facts of the real world without the invention of silly and absurd explanations.
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    Re: In the US: Is the debate on evolution between scientists and the religious?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    You don't have to cater to someone to make it a fact.
    Just because someone doesn't understand the science, that doesn't mean that it isn't a fact. It means the person is a dumbass.
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