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    Re: single or multiple

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Those who get it will get it

    The rest will hack away in their bedazzlement and lack of understanding
    *sees the word "math"*



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    Re: single or multiple

    The √-1 = i. Does this constitute many referring to one, or one referring to many?
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    Re: single or multiple

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    The √-1 = i. Does this constitute many referring to one, or one referring to many?
    Not sure, since its imaginary.

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    Re: single or multiple views

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    One of the reasons I believe that multiple (and sometimes competing) viewpoints can be valid is that I do not view logic and reason as deterministic (meaning that is only one possible outcome for a given set of axioms and reasoning to support a conclusion).

    This can be demonstrated in math with the equation of √9=3. Even in something as concrete as math, there can be more than result from a process of logic or reason. Math and logical reason, in many ways being very similar can also yield multiple results from the same process.

    What is your view, is there only one valid view or are there multiple valid views?
    I'm not sure you can analogise viewpoints to math unless the viewpoints are boiled down into rote logical operations in which multiple answers are possible or whoddidywhatamajig. Most viewpoints are never whittled down or honed to that extent and especially not in common debate.

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    Re: single or multiple views

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I'm not sure you can analogise viewpoints to math unless the viewpoints are boiled down into rote logical operations in which multiple answers are possible or whoddidywhatamajig. Most viewpoints are never whittled down or honed to that extent and especially not in common debate.
    If its less than logic, than precision goes down and that should increase the occurance and validity of the idea of multiple viewpoints.

    The reason I used math was 1. everyone should understand the simple equation so it provides a useful example 2. People tend to trust simple math which makes the example more valid and 3. There is no room for opinion and insufficient information. (we all know what 9 is). The idea is even within a system that allows no room for interpretation, if such a point can be shown to be true, its simply that much more valid in a typical debate.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 02-25-11 at 11:45 AM.

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    Re: single or multiple views

    However, I do think it is entirely possible that there can be more than one result conclusion that is true and those conclusions do not have to agree with each other, yet they can still be true.
    I'm trying to whittle things down towards more specificity, this statement seems to just encompass statements that are not mutually exclusive...

    or something.

    Keep up with your logic speak, it both fascinates and intrigues me. Is this the type of thing that can work in binary or discrete logic, can we reduce this to a set of example statements perhaps? That'd be very helpful.

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