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    Re: Are you evil?

    Sure, why not. I'm sure there are plenty of people who think I'm evil. Since evil is entirely subjective, they'd be right, at least in their own minds.
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    My capacity for compassion is severely damaged and it is frequently overridden by other concerns. I enjoy hurting people and if I could get away with it, I would do so nearly indiscriminately. I exploit other peoples' feelings for material gain and amusement. By some standards, that would make me evil. I have my share of moral virtues, and I cling to them desperately, but in the balance I find that I cannot identify myself as any kind of good and it is primarily my sense of honor and my love of order, alongside a healthy respect for the law, that keep me from being more actively evil.

    If I had the power, I would destroy everything I hated; perhaps then I could concentrate on loving whatever's left over.

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    Re: Are you evil?

    Ok...nerd/geeky side coming out of me here but...In D&D terms I would be described as Chaotic Good. Which means that generally I will follow laws unless I see one being a hinderence or not a good law in certain circumstances. For example, in those states that do not have the castle doctrine and demand that you flee instead of defend your home...I'd tell them to go F themselves and defend my home all the way to the point of killing the intruder.
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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Morality is an aspect of human existence rotating around conscience, which decides whether we are doing right by other people. When conscience is active, it considers whether we have respected other people's freedom and happiness to the best of our abilities. When it is inactive, we don't care about such things; only about aesthetic pursuits and personal pleasure. Unethical people have no ability to recognize other people have needs and desires as valid as their own.
    Morality is a matter of aesthetics. It is a matter of seeking to create a world that is pleasing to you, according to your tastes. Evil is a matter of seeking personal gain or personal pleasure at the expense of your moral aesthetic, making the world an uglier and more unpleasant place.

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    We get our definitions for good and evil the same way we get them about gravity, except instead of physics we study the architecture of human nature.
    In a gravitational field, everyone can agree upon which direction is down.

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    Re: Are you evil?

    No ... true evil is a person with no conscience. Sometimes it is difficult to recognize as those people are often astute observers and can mimic the emotions of a person with a good conscience.

    Beyond that there is mediocre and then there are people that strive to make the world a better place. The ones trying to make the world a better place and contribute are made of all races, socioeconomic groups, ethnic backgrounds, nationalities, religious beliefs and political parties.


    Fortunately true evil is only about 3% of the population.

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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In D&D terms I would be described as Chaotic Good. Which means that generally I will follow laws unless I see one being a hinderence or not a good law in certain circumstances.
    I am Lawful Neutral, but I still believe there are cases in which the law is wrong. The law is nothing more than a tool to enforce moral order, and its sole value is its efficacy to that purpose.

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    Re: Are you evil?

    Morality is a matter of aesthetics. It is a matter of seeking to create a world that is pleasing to you, according to your tastes. Evil is a matter of seeking personal gain or personal pleasure at the expense of your moral aesthetic, making the world an uglier and more unpleasant place.
    That would seem true to someone psychologically conditioned to only appreciate things aesthetically. Most of the things I appreciate aesthetically are ethically dubious; anybody who has seen the anime I took my avatar's portrait from would understand. The character is a villain protagonist who has no problem killing people who were kind to him in the past to advance his agenda. Indeed, he sometimes finds humor in it.

    Anybody who appreciates Shakespeare understands evil is very aesthetically interesting.

    In a gravitational field, everyone can agree upon which direction is down.
    Human nature doesn't exist in a different spectrum than physics. Nobody seems anymore seriously capable of regarding spiteful muttering and furtive glancing as worthwhile a way of being as sincere respect for other people's freedom and happiness than they are of arguing against the existence of gravity. There has to be a reason for that.

    What makes gravity obvious is lack of motivation for a different reality. Humans have plenty of reason to wish that other people's needs and desires aren't as valid as our own -- they get in our way and interfere with our plans and hopes -- but no motivation to believe in a different theory than gravity.

    I'm not saying people will always have a consensus on which actions are more or less ethical, but then again for a long time there was no consensus on the exact nature of gravity.

    Going in that direction, when it comes to the Big Bang and evolution, there is less agreement; religious incentive gives certain people more motivation to deny Hubble and Darwin than Newton.
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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    No ... true evil is a person with no conscience. Sometimes it is difficult to recognize as those people are often astute observers and can mimic the emotions of a person with a good conscience.

    Beyond that there is mediocre and then there are people that strive to make the world a better place. The ones trying to make the world a better place and contribute are made of all races, socioeconomic groups, ethnic backgrounds, nationalities, religious beliefs and political parties.


    Fortunately true evil is only about 3% of the population.
    I believe you're talking about severe psychological condition, not evil.


    As to the question, I put the only truthful answer, "I don't know". Evil is a highly subjective term. Hitler looked pretty sure he was doing good. If the majority of people today thought like Hitler his ways would be considered good. It really is impossible to name anyone as good or evil, as these concepts will always be something dependent on each individual's perspective of them.
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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    That would seem true to someone psychologically conditioned to only appreciate things aesthetically.
    I can conceive of no other way to appreciate something; to appreciate something is to consider its aesthetic value.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Most of the things I appreciate aesthetically are ethically dubious; anybody who has seen the anime I took my avatar's portrait from would understand. The character is a villain protagonist who has no problem killing people who were kind to him in the past to advance his agenda. Indeed, he sometimes finds humor in it.

    Anybody who appreciates Shakespeare understands evil is very aesthetically interesting.
    In that case, would you not prefer to live in a world that has evil in it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Human nature doesn't exist in a different spectrum than physics. Nobody seems anymore seriously capable of regarding spiteful muttering and furtive glancing as worthwhile a way of being as sincere respect for other people's freedom and happiness than they are of arguing against the existence of gravity. There has to be a reason for that.
    I respect the value of freedom and happiness, but I am quite capable of arguing that not only do people deserve limited quantities of these, but that they only benefit from limited quantities of these. Strength grows from conflict and exertion; without injustice and misery to strive against, we would never develop the will to create and experience their absence. I see not only the beauty but the necessity of inhumanity and strife, and would argue that the same human nature you derive your arguments from is also the source of necessary conflict; we seek freedom and happiness for ourselves at the same time that we impose tyranny and terror on others, and both impulses are fundamentally essential to morality.

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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Justice enables you to indulge in evil on a purely reactionary level.
    Sounds great... but is crazy. Justice is one aspect of the opposite of evil.

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