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    Re: Are you evil?

    I believe in duality.

    Good and evil exist within us all. To deny otherwise is to deny your humanity.

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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    By that definition, almost no one would qualify as evil. Even monsters like Hitler or Stalin believed their actions were justified and would not have considered themselves evil.
    This is what I was getting at, but I tried to not commit Godwin's Law. I suppose, in this context, you didn't.
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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Fair enough, but, we must start somewhere, yes?
    I agree. But Psychoclown's point is identical to mine. The starting point for any discussion like this is the definition. Unless you are saying that evil is individually relative... which would mean that nothing is evil.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Are you evil?

    Evil isn't that hard to figure out. People have free wills, life, and a capacity for happiness. Anybody who subverts those thing does evil. Manipulating and deceiving other people undermines their free will. Hurting, intimidating, or killing them does injury to their life. Depriving them of good things and opportunities takes away their happiness.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 02-24-11 at 02:08 AM.
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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That almost seems like a paradox, though. Would one who is evil identify that as evil?
    haha true. But i think every person can recognize what is evil about them, but it could be up to them whether that actually means they are evil.

    like, are we evil because we do some evil things, or are we evil if we do a LOT of evil things, or are we evil for only doing one evil thing. that could be a matter of opinion that isn't a paradox.

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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Evil isn't that hard to figure out. People have free wills, life, a capacity for happiness, and equally legitimate claims to all three. Anybody who subverts any of those things for selfish purposes is doing a dastardly deed. Anybody who upholds and defends them is doing a good thing.
    Not necessarily, if we are talking about individual relativism when it comes to evil. If I think it is not evil to kill you, then, based on my definition, I am not evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    haha true. But i think every person can recognize what is evil about them, but it could be up to them whether that actually means they are evil.

    like, are we evil because we do some evil things, or are we evil if we do a LOT of evil things, or are we evil for only doing one evil thing. that could be a matter of opinion that isn't a paradox.
    And what you are talking about is a more collective agreement on what a definition of evil is. Ultimately, what we are talking about is the difference between someone being evil and someone doing something evil. How many evil things does someone need to do for that person to be evil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Not necessarily, if we are talking about individual relativism when it comes to evil. If I think it is not evil to kill you, then, based on my definition, I am not evil.
    Evil is a normative condition that is as universally established as gravity. If a person prizes honesty and kindness toward others above pleasure or material gain, then they do good; they wouldn't be that way unless they were considerate of everybody. If they think of other people as impersonalities who need to be used to further their self-interests, then they do evil.

    Everybody knows that.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 02-24-11 at 02:13 AM.
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    Re: Are you evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Evil isn't that hard to figure out. People have free wills, life, and a capacity for happiness. Anybody who subverts any of those things for selfish purposes is doing a dastardly deed. Manipulating and deceiving other people undermines their free will. Hurting, intimidating, or killing them does injury to their life. Controlling them and depriving them of good things and opportunities takes away their happiness.
    There are plenty of things I could do that would subvert your free will, life, or happiness, some that might even be considered acts of self interest, but I wouldn't consider them evil.

    A basic example would be if I killed you in self defense, I would feel completely justified and my motives would've been purely about self interest (I value my life way more than I value the life of my attacker). Almost all people justify their actions and consider them to be necessary to achieve some worthwhile goal or greater good. Only cartoon villians commit villiany for the sake of the evulz!

    We have subjective opinions about right and wrong, good and evil. Just look at history and we can see countless things that were perfectly acceptable or even encouraged back in the day that we find totally reprehensible now. What changed? Our definition of what is right or good and what is wrong or evil.
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    Re: Are you evil?

    Ultimately, is anyone evil?

    There are evil acts, but, someone who commits them, are they necessarily evil?

    Or, from the other side, does an evil person necessarily have to commit evil acts?

    What makes a person evil?

    Personally, you have to be featured in a Stephen King novel to qualify.
    Last edited by Chappy; 02-24-11 at 02:18 AM.
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