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    Re: Do you support ending all Public Sector Unions?

    yeah. breathe dude....

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    Re: Do you support ending all Public Sector Unions?

    There should be NO state unions. Period. BUT.... if there is then the tax payers should vote on whether to provide raises.
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    Re: Do you support ending all Public Sector Unions?

    Some users say that it's unconservative to ban public sector unions, but in a private market without regulations then there wouldn't be any public sector. If we are going to have a public sector, then there will be regulations.

    I say we ban public sector unions. It's not fair that poor people pay for health care and pension for rich public sector workers. How are we going to solve the budget crisis, if federal workers get compensated 124K per year. And how are we going to reduce their wage without tackling the unions.

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    Re: Do you support ending all Public Sector Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Seriously, the biggest things the US handled in the 19th century was the post office and the military.
    More importantly, people still wanted the Constitution obeyed in the 19th Century.

    Wilson and the other Shredders changed that.

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    Re: Do you support ending all Public Sector Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    There is one fundamental difference between the private sector and the public. The public sector does not have the same check and balance that the private sector has, meaning the private sector cannot continue to pay inflated wages while continuing to increase debt year after year. No business can remain in the red decade after decade and stay afloat. They either make adjustments or go under. The public sector on the other hand can continue to borrow money to cover expenditures. This allows Unions to continuously raise demands beyond a reasonable level. Consider what we are seeing right now. I believe the only reason we are finally seeing some sort of resistance to the unions is because of political opposition. If Dems had remained in power in those particular states things would have continues down the same old destructive path.

    The unions called it a "victory" when they ran Eastern Airlines into the ground.

    Until the next day, when the union workers tried to go back to their old jobs at Eastern...

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    Re: Do you support ending all Public Sector Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    The time is long past due to remove the Public Masters and reinstate the Public Servants......to put Taxpayer Rights, Property Rights, Employer Rights, and Voter Rights back on an equal playing field with the almighty "Worker's rights"......and to throw our Bankrupt cities, states, and country a lifeline to solvency rather than the wellstone of Union debt. The time has come to put Public Sector Unions on the endangered species list.

    Im not saying all Public Sector Unions are a detriment.......its just how collective bargaining ultimately ends. Im not saying there havent been instances when Unions have helped our society and economy........just not in the last 3 or 4 decades. Im not saying Union slobs are all to blame.....who wouldnt vote themselves a bloated salary, gold plated health care, diamond inlayed pension, a pay raise every two years, a lifetime exemption for accountability and responsibility, and have someone else pay for it all.......if you could.

    What I am saying.....is Im a realist. And in reality, rather than Union Imaginationland, the majority of people who pay for the bloated salaries, gold plated health care, and diamond inlayed pensions of these public sector union slobs, have a smaller salary and fewer benefits, if any benefits at all. Removing Public Sector Unions entirely from The Divided Socialist States of ObamAmerica isnt an attack on the poor or middle class, its a ****ing tax break for the poor and middle class......its the weight of millions of parasites lifted from the backs of the poor and middle class. For every poor and middle class private sector worker......its a federal tax cut, a property tax cut, a state income tax cut, a city income tax cut, a sales tax cut. Its a pay raise for for 4 out of every 5 American workers.....God Bless America.

    Regardless of how noble or heroic a role......Public Sector Unions and their members produce NOTHING....but bureaucracy and debt. The majority of Public Sector Union Jobs could be handled by the Private market for lower costs with better results. And while American Workers should have the right to Organize.....it shouldnt be on the back of the American Taxpayer. A long overdue welcome to all Public Sector Unions......back to Freedom, the Free Market, and Reality. By bill or by bankruptcy.......the days of Public Sector Unions are numbered.........and the end cant come soon enough.
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    This is total rhetorical nonsense. You may want to rethink the logic behind your reasoning. No, public unions should not be eliminated because it is the full right of citizens to peaceably assemble according to the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. What you should be arguing against is the privilege of collective bargaining, not the right to form associations.

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    Re: Do you support ending all Public Sector Unions?

    I don't really have a strong opinion either way... but I don't like seeing the government stepping in and trying to do anything here... Ideally, if there were very little government I think unions would be necessary though. It's only natural for individuals, including workers to fight for their own best interests. If there are little regulations, there should be, at least unions. Some people think that unions hurt a company, but it's also true the management hurts their own companies where there is financial gain (Enron for example). Now we have Sarbanes Oxley, so if there are no regulations I think unions should be permitted to balance the power out...

    I believe that in the free market, at least one agent would want to secure the longevity of the company over short term profit... sometimes it's the worker, sometimes it's mgt. Seeing a company prosper and have long life, is economically rational and ideal for the workers..

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    Re: Do you support ending all Public Sector Unions?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    This is total rhetorical nonsense. You may want to rethink the logic behind your reasoning. No, public unions should not be eliminated because it is the full right of citizens to peaceably assemble according to the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
    They have every right to assemble.....in the private market. When Public Unions assemble.......its the government assembling against THE PEOPLE.......in industries that were never to be placed under the control of the government.....according to the U.S. Constitution/DNC toilet paper.

    What you should be arguing against is the privilege of collective bargaining, not the right to form associations.
    As Public Sector Unions in Wisconsin and various other states have shown......it seems you cant have one without the other......
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    Re: Do you support ending all Public Sector Unions?

    I think I'll form my reply in the words of FDR,

    Quote Originally Posted by FDR
    All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.
    Franklin D. Roosevelt: Letter on the Resolution of Federation of Federal Employees Against Strikes in Federal Service


    Now that doesn't mean he did not favor government employee unions at all, but that they must be restricted.

    I'd go a step further and say I'd want a complete ban on unionization in government employment.
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    Holy ****, look who it is! Welcome back!
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