View Poll Results: Is Collective Bargaining in the Public Sector a Right or is it a Privilege?

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  • Collective Bargaining, at least in the public sector is a fundamental human right

    13 19.70%
  • Collective Bargaining in the public sector is a privilege.

    41 62.12%
  • Other, the issue is more complex than that (Explain)

    12 18.18%
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    Re: Is Collective Bargaining in the public sector a Right, or is it a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And then there is the wonderful world of competition where different merchants either lower their prices or give better services to consumers to attract more customers and increase their profits.
    Sounds like a great argument for vouchers. ;-)
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    Re: Is Collective Bargaining in the public sector a Right, or is it a Privilege?

    Neal Boortz has had a lot to say about this in the last 2 weeks. He said public employees' unions, especially teachers' unions, should not be allowed, period. I agree.

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    Re: Is Collective Bargaining in the public sector a Right, or is it a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    Ah yes, the joys and wisdom of a ECON high school textbook. Were it all as simple as that. Unfortunately, we live in the real world where supply can remain constant and demand does not increase one bit but prices of gas shoot up 10% in a week.
    You really are incredibly young and naive or matured and embarrassingly ignorant of the times. Supply for oil does not remain constant. In what world are you living on? Oil is one of the most (if not the most) precious commodity in existence as of today. Its supply is constantly changing based on various factors and one of them being demand.

    The main reason why our oil prices are rising so fast today is because of the revolutionary turmoil in the Middle East.

    And then there is the wonderful world of competition where different merchants either lower their prices or give better services to consumers to attract more customers and increase their profits. Tell the four gas stations on the same intersection all about those simple economics while they all charge exactly the same for a gallon of gas.

    What chapter of the free market book is that one in?
    I can go to Shell and pay for some expensive, high quality gasoline that has been mixed with synthetic chemicals that will improve the life of my engine, or I can simply go down to the Thrifty and pay the bare bones price for gas. Gas stations do not charge the same exact price for their gas. They all offer different things to different people with different demands.

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    Re: Is Collective Bargaining in the public sector a Right, or is it a Privilege?

    I also noticed, haymarket, that you tend to neglect everything I say and instead you choose to respond to a four word sentence out of my entire paragraph.

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    Re: Is Collective Bargaining in the public sector a Right, or is it a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    Neal Boortz has had a lot to say about this in the last 2 weeks. He said public employees' unions, especially teachers' unions, should not be allowed, period. I agree.
    Please help your POV, some things are not obvious to me. Is it based on the Gov workers not being a members of "We the People" but rather that they are part of the 'tyrannical' government?

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    Re: Is Collective Bargaining in the public sector a Right, or is it a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    Neal Boortz has had a lot to say about this in the last 2 weeks. He said public employees' unions, especially teachers' unions, should not be allowed, period. I agree.
    well that does it
    how can the opposing side hope to overcome such a deep explanation against teacher unions
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Is Collective Bargaining in the public sector a Right, or is it a Privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No. You. Every valid labor contract has a begin-end date. Contracts expire.
    you seem not to understand that labor-management contracts often take an extensive period of time to re-negotiate. that period, after the contract expiration, is described as the "rollover" period. it is that span of time when the existing contract prevails while the new version is under constriction. it is standard language found in the hundred plus contracts i have reviewed (plagiarized)
    that you do not understand something so fundamental about the labor-management process causes me to believe you actually have a very weak understanding of labor law/procedures
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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