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Thread: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Really? I rather think Obama would have to set up a meteor attractor and destroy the earth to do more damage than W.
    I'm not say that Obama and Bush aren't complicit in important developments, but their contributions are exaggerated. Both administrations are mostly proxies for the weaknesses of the American people. That's true of governments everywhere, even in autocratic societies. Neither politician would have gotten beyond the peripheral of the American consciousness unless they spoke to something within the soul of America. Ultimately it is that soul which gives them power and informs their actions.
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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Bush did more damage to this country.
    However Obama is doing little for it.

    The question was who has done more damage to this country right?

    George W. Bush has done more damage.
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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Bush did more damage to this country.
    However Obama is doing little for it.

    The question was who has done more damage to this country right?

    George W. Bush has done more damage.
    I agree. Obama isnt so hot but Bush really screwed up on multiple levels.
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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    I agree. Obama isnt so hot but Bush really screwed up on multiple levels.
    Hey hey hey.... let's give Obama a chance! It's only been 2 years and he's off to a very good start. He may pass Bush's damage of 8 years in only 4... after all, Obama's much more intelligent than chimp boy.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Hey hey hey.... let's give Obama a chance! It's only been 2 years and he's off to a very good start. He may pass Bush's damage of 8 years in only 4... after all, Obama's much more intelligent than chimp boy.
    The difference between Obama and Bush is that most of what Bush did was a consequence of being trapped between tough realities and everything Obama does is a consequence of being trapped between tough realities. That gives Obama slight moral superiority.
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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    The difference between Obama and Bush is that most of what Bush did was a consequence of being trapped between tough realities and everything Obama does is a consequence of being trapped between tough realities. That gives Obama slight moral superiority.
    I call bs on that. it sounds good but is not supportable with verifiable evidence

    Bush put two brilliant experienced jurists on the USSC

    obama pandered to voting groups and put someone who had no business on the court

    what was his tough reality--losing the lesbian jewish vote if he didn't pick Kagan?



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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I agree that it might have taken longer to get out of the recession...(though I still think that we are in the recession) However all that has happened is at best a bandaid affect. What should have happened is to let those big corporations fail and collapse. Yes that would have meant harder times. But I think it would have been better in the long run.

    Big corporations have a tendency to stomp out the little guys. Half the time without even realizing it. This leads to monopolies, which in turn leads to stagnation because theres no real competition to make the corporation try to stay on top. By letting those corporations fall it would have allowed more competition to surface. Which is good for the common consumer. Competition means lower prices, which in turn means more spending because people can afford <X item here>.

    This post is of course just a small part of why I think Gov spending in the middle of a recession is bad. I won't get into more of it as this is neither the thread, nor do I really feel like getting into such a debate.
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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Bush has done more damage. He has gotten us into expensive poorly planned wars, he has contributed to the destruction of the economy. He contributed to the national debt and raised the deficit. Obama isn't much better. However Bush had 8 years, Obama so far has had almost 3.
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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I call bs on that. it sounds good but is not supportable with verifiable evidence

    Bush put two brilliant experienced jurists on the USSC

    obama pandered to voting groups and put someone who had no business on the court

    what was his tough reality--losing the lesbian jewish vote if he didn't pick Kagan?
    Thankyou. You are clearly the best representative of those folks that share your POV.
    I don't think anyone make a more salient point than you did.
    However, I expect some will try to push you out your top of the heap position.

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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    This is win... so i had to quote it
    You were quoting the following:
    What should have happened is to let those big corporations fail and collapse. Yes that would have meant harder times. But I think it would have been better in the long run.

    If we didn't rescue GM then Ford, US Honda, US Toyota, Crysler would have also failed.
    That is because they all use the same suppliers (e.g. a door panel supplier was next door to where my wife worked and a trim vendor around the corner) and they were about to fail as it was. Do you need more details? That might have been all we needed to fall further to depression.

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