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Thread: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Alright lets go through the economics of your statements. (that really need further explanation to be really understood)

    I can't speak for looking glass but I can give you my view of what needs to be done. To fix our current issues there will have to be a time of economic sturggle in which there will be high unemployment, businesses will fail and America will lose it's crown as the leading superpower of the world. Yet thanks to this economic struggle and due to deregulation and a much smaller federal government there will be opportunity everywhere which will result in another golden age for America. Yet the period required to remove the inefficiencies will be uncomfortable and will result in frustration. This frustration and cause and reasons why there is a recession will be misdirected and misinterpretted.

    It can only happen one way through a real free market economy and smaller government. The result of this will be a higher standard of living for nearly all and greater overall freedom.

    I'm okay with rising taxes to fight the deficit, only after the inefficiencies caused by our massive federal government are eliminated. See above reduction in govt size.

    Yes more jobs due, but the question is what kind of jobs are created, structural or make work employment?

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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulterkampf View Post
    Alright lets go through the economics of your statements. (that really need further explanation to be really understood)

    I can't speak for looking glass but I can give you my view of what needs to be done. To fix our current issues there will have to be a time of economic sturggle in which there will be high unemployment, businesses will fail and America will lose it's crown as the leading superpower of the world. Yet thanks to this economic struggle and due to deregulation and a much smaller federal government there will be opportunity everywhere which will result in another golden age for America. Yet the period required to remove the inefficiencies will be uncomfortable and will result in frustration. This frustration and cause and reasons why there is a recession will be misdirected and misinterpretted.

    It can only happen one way through a real free market economy and smaller government. The result of this will be a higher standard of living for nearly all and greater overall freedom.

    I'm okay with rising taxes to fight the deficit, only after the inefficiencies caused by our massive federal government are eliminated. See above reduction in govt size.

    Yes more jobs due, but the question is what kind of jobs are created, structural or make work employment?
    Well you must lean to the right or a die hard rightwinger.

    You guys tend to go this way then that way when it comes to the economics of America

    I like to keep things simple.

    Like money, the American goveernment runs on money.
    Money comes from taxes.
    If budget cuts are needed tax revenue is low.

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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    I'm going to keep my opinion out of the first post. I think the title pretty much sizes things up. George W. Bush vs. Barack Hussein Obama
    I'm going to answer before I read anybody else's post.

    President Obama. George Bush will be judged by historians to have had a very difficult presidency because of 9/11 and the Iraq War. When he stepped up to the plate and addressed the American people re 9/11, he was a powerhouse. I get chills just thinking about it. The nation was stunned. There he was (well, after he left the school; I'll give ya' that) talking straight, firm, telegraphing his intentions...and ready to act -- he didn't put a finger up to the wind. He laid down the law. We allllll needed to hear that right then. We weren't disappointed.

    President Obama spent two full years ramming healthcare down the throats of Americans. (I'm actually for universal healthcare, by the way.) He ignored Republicans...he was on point to making that legislation his legacy. And...perhaps he has. But at what cost? Americans didn't understand it. Americans didn't believe in it. Americans didn't want it. Is that the job of a President? Or is it the President's job to "bring us along with him?" I say the latter. He dragged us kicking and screaming. History will not forgive him for that.

    Fortunately, his fixation on universal healthcare took away his momentum....so we never did get Card Check -- which would have been the worst legislation I think I've seen in my lifetime. We should be thankful.

    I don't like him. I don't trust him. I have no confidence in his ability to lead. Guess that pretty much sums it up.
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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    President Bush had his weaknesses and made a few mistakes.

    Obama is a flat out failure at everything he has done, unless you figure his own agenda of destruction and that is right on schedule, and the economy is in trouble so that Socialism can be pushed. Only people have figured him and his lies out.

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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Obama is the worst president of my lifetime, worse than jimmy carter and america knows it. Liberals as well as conservatives

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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    I think it is obviously Bush. From 9-11 and Katrina to the economic collapse he left to Obama. No question. Obama had to do the spending he did in order to keep the economy from a complete breakdown. I can list all the top economists who said he needed to shore things up. The stock market has returned, The job situation is heading north. Now I don't think housing will come back for a while and since it was our main economic engine the past ten years that is going to continue to hurt us. But the entire mess including two wars that were unfunded were all left behind by GWB. That is a fact no matter what you think of Obama. Without the crash Obama would have never had to spend what he did. And BTW it was congress as well that passed the spending. So there you are. My take. Thank you thank you. I'm here all week. Oh and before someone says it...I liked Bush

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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Everything Bush did wrong, Obama has done exponentially. Everything Bush did right, Obama has not done at all.
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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Bush didn't cause 9/11. Come on now.

    As for the job market returning, let's think about that one. Obama spent an extra trillion dollars a year that we didn't have in 2009 and 2010, and the job situation got even worse. Even the jobs he said he saved were proven wrong by later reports.

    Then we extended the Bush tax cuts in December and suddenly jobs are coming back. After passing the Bush tax cuts the first time, unemployment dropped to 4.5%.

    No correlation?
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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Bush didn't cause 9/11. Come on now.

    As for the job market returning, let's think about that one. Obama spent an extra trillion dollars a year that we didn't have in 2009 and 2010, and the job situation got even worse. Even the jobs he said he saved were proven wrong by later reports.

    Then we extended the Bush tax cuts in December and suddenly jobs are coming back. After passing the Bush tax cuts the first time, unemployment dropped to 4.5%.

    No correlation?
    yea and when the economy does come back, which it is supposed to, they are all going to praise Obama for doing such a great job. He is slowing the recovery down by not reducing spending while passing more government funded programs.

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    Re: Who Do You Think Has Done More Damage to the Country, Bush or Obama?

    Obama, without question. His Obamacare monstrosity alone will do more damage that Bush ever could. Then there's the outrageous drilling moratorium for US companies, but Obama is going to gladly help Brazil drill in the Gulf, so we could buy their oil. There's the destruction of the US manned space program, something the nation won't recover from for decades. There's the Green Energy boondoggle. There's the Third War. There's the trillion dollar deficits of Obama's. There's the unpunished racism in Holder's Justice Department. There's the lawsuit against Arizona for passing sensible residency verification laws to guide police when stopping people with probable cause. There's Obama's inability to say the word's "Islamic" and "terrorism" in the same teleprompter screen.

    There's no comparison. Only Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt were worse presidents than Obama. Carter doesn't place anymore.

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