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    Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I am not going to be saddled with somebody who has no chance of winning re-election if they are not on the ballot. That is ridiculous. People can die. People can have health problems.
    People can have family problems. People can have financial problems. People can have personal problems. If they are not on the ballot, I will not be saddled with them as that is unfair and gives you an unfair advantage.
    I'm not asking for that so that's fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    We bet on those before the electorate. I say that a majority of those who Dems who left will be re-elected when they stand before the public for re-election.
    We bet on those individuals today. And a majority means 51% or >. You agree?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm not asking for that so that's fine.

    We bet on those individuals today. And a majority means 51% or >. You agree?
    So the bet is that we take the Wisconsin Senate Dems who left the state who run for re-election next time. I say a majority of those who run will be re-elected. You claim they will not. A tie goes to you.
    The icon of the winner is the prize.

    Agreed?
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    Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So the bet is that we take the Wisconsin Senate Dems who left the state who run for re-election next time. I say a majority of those who run will be re-elected. You claim they will not. A tie goes to you.
    The icon of the winner is the prize.

    Agreed?
    Jezus dude. There is no icon, the loser must use the winners avatar of choice, for 30 days starting the 1st of the next month. If you agree, we're on.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Unbelievable, two "liberals" agreeing with a "hard line" conservative.
    But, at this point in time, could we agree that the Democrats are in the minority and the GOP should be ruling the day - is this not democracy ?....majority rules ?
    I remember the same outrage people had when the democrats filibustered when Bush was in Office. I admit I was one of those people who was outraged but the logic occurred to me that politicians who allegedly feel the same way I do will one day be in the minority and the other side will be the majority and it will go back and forth between one side being in the majority and the other side being in the minority. I bet no party is willing to make it to where a politician forfeits their vote on a issue and a vote can go on if a politician refuses to show up to vote.



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    Should the unions modernize their role ??
    Unions should always look out for the interests of their members and at the same time unions should realize that companies and states can not continue to give out the same benefits they used to.
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    Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So the bet is that we take the Wisconsin Senate Dems who left the state who run for re-election next time. I say a majority of those who run will be re-elected. You claim they will not. A tie goes to you.
    The icon of the winner is the prize.

    Agreed?
    so you can benefit from politicians reading the tea leaves and not re-running because the writing is on the wall.

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    Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So the bet is that we take the Wisconsin Senate Dems who left the state who run for re-election next time. I say a majority of those who run will be re-elected. You claim they will not. A tie goes to you.
    The icon of the winner is the prize.

    Agreed?
    Why can't the democrats just go back and vote "no"? Is there a reason I am missing here? They do have the majority, right?

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    Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Why can't the democrats just go back and vote "no"? Is there a reason I am missing here? They do have the majority, right?
    The republicans have the majority. The democrats left to deny them a quorum.

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    Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    The republicans have the majority. The democrats left to deny them a quorum.
    Oh word. So this is similar to a filibuster (something that I am adamantly against)? Then I definitely stand by my answer of "no, they should not be paid", though I do not agree with the republican agenda.

    I think it is less about being paid, and more about me hating the dirty politics that go on. Why do we need these stupid rules? They didn't show up, their vote doesn't count, they lose. Moreover, the fact that we know that all republicans will vote "yes" and all democrats will vote "no" shows how poorly our current government is running.

    This is an excellent example of how the party system is destroying our government.

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    Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Oh word. So this is similar to a filibuster (something that I am adamantly against)? Then I definitely stand by my answer of "no, they should not be paid", though I do not agree with the republican agenda.

    I think it is less about being paid, and more about me hating the dirty politics that go on. Why do we need these stupid rules? They didn't show up, their vote doesn't count, they lose. Moreover, the fact that we know that all republicans will vote "yes" and all democrats will vote "no" shows how poorly our current government is running.

    This is an excellent example of how the party system is destroying our government.
    In a way it is similar to a filibuster. (I hadn't thought of that comparison, but it seems apt).

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    Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Oh word. So this is similar to a filibuster (something that I am adamantly against)? Then I definitely stand by my answer of "no, they should not be paid", though I do not agree with the republican agenda.

    I think it is less about being paid, and more about me hating the dirty politics that go on. Why do we need these stupid rules? They didn't show up, their vote doesn't count, they lose. Moreover, the fact that we know that all republicans will vote "yes" and all democrats will vote "no" shows how poorly our current government is running.

    This is an excellent example of how the party system is destroying our government.
    Do you think either side is willing to change the rules so that votes can go on if politicians refuse to show up to vote?
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