View Poll Results: Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

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  • It's too small! We need to expand govt healthcare, infrastructure and buying failing companies.

    3 8.82%
  • It is just about right. Govt provides essential services that for-profit companies can't.

    1 2.94%
  • It is too big. Reduce the deficit by reducing military and limiting entitlement eligibility.

    2 5.88%
  • It is TOO BIG!!! Entitlements to the states, reduce military, elim. Departments. Target: 25% GDP.

    14 41.18%
  • It is TOO BIG!!! Entitlements to the states, reduce military, elim. Departments. Target: 10% GDP.

    14 41.18%
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Thread: Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

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    Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

    Let us look at the REAL problem....

    Here is a chart of Government Spending as a percent of GDP, since 1900, with Healthcare and Welfare split out. Notice that in 1900, Gov't Spending was less than 4% of GDP - in 2008 it exceeded 40%. I really don't care who was in office, the trend since the Great Depression is clear...due to the Great Deal etc, as well as just uncontrolled spending in general...around 13% in 1930...over 20% 3 years later...ignoring wars, over 30% around 1968...finally over 40% in 2008. 40% ****ing percent of our economy is Government Spending!!!

    Significant increases to Welfare and Healthcare since 1950. Note that this is a percent of GDP, which has exploded since 1950. So the percent of GDP in government spending has increased on top of a growing GDP.




    Here is the raw numbers for the growing costs of Pensions, Healthcare, Education and Welfare. All exploding since 1950.



    We are on the wrong track and breaking this country, which was founded on private economic activity. The government is adopting too many social programs, but even beyond that, is growing too large. And it is getting worse. Something must be done but the Congress, House and Senate, are getting ready to enter a bunch of bull**** rhetorical combat to cut the deficit and yet defend home programs. It all needs to be reduced. Even the Tea Partiers are not going far enough.

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    Re: Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

    I think Americans have let their government get out of their control. I don't think they answer to the people anymore.
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    Re: Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

    If federal government does 40% of the spending, what the hell is state government doing?
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    Re: Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    I think Americans have let their government get out of their control. I don't think they answer to the people anymore.
    You are aware without all that spending the people of this nation would be third worlders?

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    Re: Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    If federal government does 40% of the spending, what the hell is state government doing?
    8-10 percent of the spending. so half our money goes to the government. so much for being one of the few nations that has low taxes.....

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    Re: Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    You are aware without all that spending the people of this nation would be third worlders?
    Where does this claim come from?

    According to this site, backed up by references:

    There are approximately 154.4 million employed individuals in the US. Small businesses are the largest employer in the country representing 53% of US workers. The second largest share of employment belongs to large businesses, who employ a total of 38% of the US workforce. A total of 91% of Americans are employed by the private sector. Government accounts for 8% of all US workers.
    So, if government only employs 8% of the workforce, and represents 40% of GDP, where the **** is all the money being spent? More pertinent to your post, how does a reduction in employment of 8% of the workforce translate to third-world status? I think you are talking out of your ass.

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    Re: Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Where does this claim come from?

    According to this site, backed up by references:



    So, if government only employs 8% of the workforce, and represents 40% of GDP, where the **** is all the money being spent? More pertinent to your post, how does a reduction in employment of 8% of the workforce translate to third-world status? I think you are talking out of your ass.
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    Re: Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

    Government jobs are still needed to keep the economy going. Later, when jobs stabilize, they can cut back.

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    Re: Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    You are aware without all that spending the people of this nation would be third worlders?
    I just think our economy shouldn't rely so much on government spending. One of the many tools of control is need. But that's just my grand philosophical wisdom. Economics isn't exactly one of my strong suits.
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    Re: Is the federal government too big and if so, what should we do?

    If the government doesn't get smaller after 4 hours you have to see a doctor.
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