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Assuming that the Republicans hold their ground, Obama vetoes their budget bill and the federal government "shuts down", who would you blame and why?
 
Both, as it is clear that both sides are doing their typical squaring off against each other and there is little compromise happening.

The government as a whole is failing this nation consistently and repeatedly.
 
Both. If the government shuts down it means that both sides refused to compromise enough and both wanted to win far more than they wanted to help the country.
 
Definitely both. We elected these clowns to take care of the nation's business and meet the challenges we face, not to play petty politics. If they shut the government down, we need to hold an election with all seats up for grabs and no incumbents eligible to run.

Fire the lot of them, like we should have done in the past couple of elections.
 
Definitely both. We elected these clowns to take care of the nation's business and meet the challenges we face, not to play petty politics. If they shut the government down, we need to hold an election with all seats up for grabs and no incumbents eligible to run.

Fire the lot of them, like we should have done in the past couple of elections.

I love this idea. And you are right. In a way, we HIRED them to do a job, not play "who's the king of the mountain". They shut the government down, they should not get paid and should be fired for job abandonment.
 
I blame the Brittish.

That's ok, because then I only have to feel half guilty about it.

Being half south African, half british by blood has it's advantages.

Except that both have parts of their history that involve extensive subjegation of peoples... :mrgreen:
 
Republicans have a chance to be reasonable, but, so far, that's not the option they're choosing.
 
That's ok, because then I only have to feel half guilty about it.

Being half south African, half british by blood has it's advantages.

Except that both have parts of their history that involve extensive subjegation of peoples... :mrgreen:

I thought you were Canadian? What's it to you?
 
Sorry, I was speaking New Yorker. What stake do you have in this conversation?
 
Assuming that the Republicans hold their ground, Obama vetoes their budget bill and the federal government "shuts down", who would you blame and why?

Obama intentionally wrote a crap budget to gracefully avoid the serious issues and just trudge on with his bull**** idea of 'what's important'

Government *won't* shut down - tossing that around is like the Y2K scare. And that won't happen (them not approving it) - they continually approved extensive funding for a war they claimed to oppose - so Congress never knows what it means to not vote in a massive spending bill.

Republicans, Tea Party, or Democrats - they're all in the dirty business of not doing the *right thing* - always.
 
Sorry, I was speaking New Yorker. What stake do you have in this conversation?

I think the stake he has is that this is an open political debate site where anyone can discuss anything that interests them.
 
Obama because of that lousy budget he put out. He knew that wouldn't fly.
 
Why does it matter to you what stake i have or not?

Nothin'. No matter. This half-British, half-African dance you were performing was confusing to me. Turns out your an interested Canadian. Fine. Speak your mind.
 
As this point, the answer is both. But potentially it could be either, if one side works for a compromise and the other refuses to compromise at all. Remains to be seen if we will get to that point.
 
Assuming that the Republicans hold their ground, Obama vetoes their budget bill and the federal government "shuts down", who would you blame and why?

Other...Republicans, Democrats and the President. Put the blame where it belongs: squarely on the entire Congress and the White House.

Bushed @ #5 -- Hahahahaha!!!
 
Blame? A shut down would not be the end of the world and will actually save money.
 
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Both obviously. The situation would be that both sides are more interested in partisanship and getting their way than running the country properly.
 
Republicans have a chance to be reasonable, but, so far, that's not the option they're choosing.

Maybe they are just following Obama's lead?

 
Assuming that the Republicans hold their ground, Obama vetoes their budget bill and the federal government "shuts down", who would you blame and why?

More like who would I praise. :mrgreen:

The Fedgov "shutting down" is really a misnomer, it never does entirely. Certain functions are delayed or suspended until emergency spending measures are put in place. A Fedgov "shutdown" doesn't scare me, I don't depend on the Fedgov for my day-to-day living.

We're in serious trouble. The new budget is, what, .40 cents on the dollar of DEBT? The cuts the Repubs are trying to make are really just a tiny nick on what we really need to do. Cut 61 billion? Well that's a start I suppose.... 61 Billion down, 900 billion to go to restore some sanity to the budget and maybe keep our economy from collapsing.

Hand ME the "shears". You'll see some REAL cutting.
 
The federal government is like a family that has been living on their MasterCard for about ten years now, and find that the card is about maxed out. Now, they're arguing about whether to raise the limit, which is a silly argument because they know that they must raise the limit or simply quit paying the bills. Meanwhile, they are arguing about how best to cut their borrowing back to only half as much as they're borrowing now in another decade or so, and trimming a buck or two a month off of their spending, claiming that they're being fiscally responsible while ignoring the staggering debt that they're building up and will never be able to pay off.
 
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