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Thread: US Border Policy With Mexico

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    Re: US Border Policy With Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    So do you think the issueis with the non-citizen but or the mestizo bit? I'm of the opinion that it's the former.
    Well considering that most illegals end up paying their relative share of taxes and their expense to society is arguably ambiguous... I'd say the issue is mixed. Delving into the issue will cause some terminological confusion.


    Though that maps actually pretty crap, because Australian Aborigines had a pretty uniform skin tone, regardless of distribution.
    Yes it's some sort-of computer generated estimate based on climate. I think its a nice visual though.

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    Re: US Border Policy With Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Ypu forgot that the fence was to mexico and you floated off on that somehow stopping illegal immigration isn't racist because there are illegals of all races. Last I checked it was mostly mestizo mexicans on the border to mexico. Hence a border to mexico affecting mostly mexicans of the mestizo race may effectively be ethnic policy, no moralistic strings attached in the argument. That's why it's short. Sorry for biting your head off.
    Since you wish to try and make the whole illegal debate about Mestizo's....Remember...YOU are the one that made this thread about a particular race. Not I.

    Here's a question for you...out of all the illegals that have come into the US in the last 20 years which race has the most illegals in this country? And what country did most of those illegals come to the US through?
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    Re: US Border Policy With Mexico

    Kudos to Spud_Meister and Kal'Stang, who actually get it. Boo to SE102 who hasn't got a freaking clue as to the problems illegal immigration has caused.

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    Re: US Border Policy With Mexico

    No, its not "ethnic" policy. The majority of illegal immigrants in our country are from locations south of the border, with the easiest method of entry being over said border. Regardless of ethnicity, when dealing with an issue of people entering a point illegally it is most efficient and intelligent to deal with the point that is having the most impact.

    If 80% of our immigration issue seemed to be coming from north of the border instead, I'd be suggesting more focus on the northern border. If 80% of our immigraiton issue seemed to be coming from people from oversea's, I'd be suggesting more focus on international airport entry points.

    However, it seems the majority of our immigration problem is coming from people crossing our southern border or coming from people coming into the country legally but overstaying their welcome. Its why I think those are the two areas to look at first and most substantially in regards to immigration policy, because fixing them would be realistically believed to have the best effect.

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    Re: US Border Policy With Mexico

    I know it's a race issue for a lot of people I know here in Ohio who are strongly anti-illegal immigration. But we're not a border state, and I think it's their opinions and reasons for having those opinions are less important that those who live on the border and have to deal with this stuff on a daily basis. I do think Republican policy on illegal immigration fails to address any of the core reasons why illegal immigration is a problem, and I find the amount of attention on "anchor babies" to be pretty ridiculous and race or politics related. I think the average person on the border is more concerned with keeping the ultra violent heavily armed drug gangs out of their backyards than the heavily exaggerated problem of anchor babies (or at least they should be).

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    Re: US Border Policy With Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Kudos to Spud_Meister and Kal'Stang, who actually get it. Boo to SE102 who hasn't got a freaking clue as to the problems illegal immigration has caused.
    This isn't about whether it's caused problems or not. This is about whether it's an ethnic policy or not.

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    Re: US Border Policy With Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    So which ethnicity is it targeting?
    Mexican is an ethnicity afaict.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: US Border Policy With Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Mexican is an ethnicity afaict.
    Actually if you wish to get technical "Mexican" is not an ethnicity. Its the name of a countries citizens. Much like the people in America are "Americans".

    So again, another reason why the OP is wrong in thinking that border policy is "ethnic policy".
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    Re: US Border Policy With Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Mexican is an ethnicity afaict.
    Yeah, but it's not the only ethnicity that isn't allowed to enter the country illegally is it?
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    Re: US Border Policy With Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually if you wish to get technical "Mexican" is not an ethnicity. Its the name of a countries citizens. Much like the people in America are "Americans".
    So again, another reason why the OP is wrong in thinking that border policy is "ethnic policy".
    From what I can tell, there's not actually a hard and fast definition of ethnicity.
    Furthermore we get to count Italian, Greek, Spanish, etc as ethnicities, so why not Mexican?
    I may be wrong.

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