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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm curious. Are ALL rightwing partisan hacks such as your self uneducated in history, or just you? Here are the largest changes in Congress throughout history broken down by HoR, Senate, and combined:

    HoR
    1) 96...1933...Democrats
    2) 93...1875...Democrats
    3) 75...1891...Democrats
    4) 75...1949...Democrats

    64...2011...Republicans

    Senate
    1) 15..1959...Democrats
    2) 12..1933...Democrats
    3) 12..1981...Republicans
    4) 10..1935...Democrats
    5) 10..1875...Democrats

    7...2011...Republicans

    Combined
    1) 108...1933...Democrats
    2) 103...1875...Democrats
    3) 84...1949...Democrats

    71...2011...Republicans

    Now, consider that in 1933 FDR defeated Hoover 472-59. EASILY, this was the biggest political asswhopping in US History. EASILY. In 1949, Truman defeated Dewey 303-189. Though this was re-election, this would easily be the 2ND biggest political asswhopping in US History. Notice... both were by Democrats.

    What else to we notice? The top 4 HoR shifts were all by Democrats. 4 of the top 5 Senate shifts were by Democrats. The top 3 Congressional shifts were by Democrats. What happened in 2011 doesn't turn up in the top 5 of ANY list.

    So, what have we learned? Firstly, Badmutha doesn't know history. Secondly, Badmutha's premise is completely false... of course. And lastly, Badmutha presents himself as a silly right wing hack, attempting to spread misinformation, lies, just overall foolishness. Fortunately, there are those on this forum eager to expose such folly for the dishonesty that it is.

    Badmutha... next time try doing some actual research before attempting to present such ridiculous hackery.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Which is all why the gains made by the GOP this past election so historic. Are you suggesting it didn't mean anything?
    That's not what Badmutha presented. Here is the comment of his that I have thoroughly dismissed:

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    Nov. 2, 2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Oh, and just to continue the destruction of Badmutha, in 1933, the Democrats gained 12 governorships. I don't have the data for legislatures, but I would imagine it was comparable. There have been several times in history when, during the mid-term elections, there has been a 9+ swing in governorships. Again, "the largest political asswhopping in history"? Not even close... unless you know nothing of history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Oh, and just to continue the destruction of Badmutha, in 1933, the Democrats gained 12 governorships. I don't have the data for legislatures, but I would imagine it was comparable. There have been several times in history when, during the mid-term elections, there has been a 9+ swing in governorships. Again, "the largest political asswhopping in history"? Not even close... unless you know nothing of history.
    You know you're not voting for Obama. I know you're disgusted with his performance.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You know you're not voting for Obama. I know you're disgusted with his performance.
    It really depends on the next 18 months and who he is running against. No way will I vote for a social conservative, but how a Republican stacks up, fiscally, will help me decide. I hope I don't have to do what I've done in quite a few elections, recently: vote AGAINST someone, rather than FOR someone.

    And Obama wasn't my first choice... or even second for the nomination in 2008.
    Last edited by CaptainCourtesy; 02-17-11 at 07:10 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Considering I didnt vote for him in 2008, why the **** would I vote for him in 2012? I plan on voting for Ron Paul.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    So if Mitch Daniels (a semi-solid right wing conservative) doesnt run, or your opinions of other likely Republican candidates dont improve...........

    ............your plan is to jump all the way to the other end of the poitical spectrum and elect the biggest Left Wing Extremist to ever stain the whitehouse?

    Why dont you just stick your finger in the air prior to entering the voting booth........as it seems you have the political spine of a jellyfish.
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    First, of all, I mostly have voted democrat on the national level, including last presidential election, so I don't see voting for Obama as "jumping to" anything. If anything, voting for a Republican for president would be somewhat unusual for me. Daniels and Obama are both moderate politicians who take positions mostly based on what makes sense and is reasonable, rather than what is popular. Their ideas of what is best differ, but unlike most people on this board I don't really think there are any universal truths in governance. I'd be fine with either a small-government or big-government individual, because I recognize the strengths of both theories - as long as important individual rights are protected. I don't see either candidate as going overboard in his political ideology and infringing on any of the rights I consider fundamental, whereas that is a constant danger with the other Republican candidates.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Personally, I would never vote for Obama.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    First, of all, I mostly have voted democrat on the national level, including last presidential election, so I don't see voting for Obama as "jumping to" anything. If anything, voting for a Republican for president would be somewhat unusual for me. Daniels and Obama are both moderate politicians who take positions mostly based on what makes sense and is reasonable, rather than what is popular. Their ideas of what is best differ, but unlike most people on this board I don't really think there are any universal truths in governance. I'd be fine with either a small-government or big-government individual, because I recognize the strengths of both theories - as long as important individual rights are protected. I don't see either candidate as going overboard in his political ideology and infringing on any of the rights I consider fundamental, whereas that is a constant danger with the other Republican candidates.
    So breathing freely without having to pay for it isn't a fundamental right? Gotcha.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So breathing freely without having to pay for it isn't a fundamental right? Gotcha.
    Would you like to elaborate on this "point"?

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