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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Didn't vote for him the first time. In 2012 I'll probably either be voting Republican or abstaining again-- depending on how bad the GOP candidate is.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Off the top of my head no.

    Edit: And good grief Badmutha stop with the birther crap.
    You at least gotta admit he's the least transparent president ever. Do we even know if he has a library card?
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Unless or until Mitch Daniels decides to run for president, or my opinion of one of the other likely Republican candidates changes, it seems pretty likely I will end up voting for Obama.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Depends, I doubt the Republicans can nominate anyone that I would vote for, and I'm not going to not vote so Obama will probably be my only choice.

    Obama hasn't been great, but he hasn't been terrible either, hopefully he will improve these next 2 years.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Unless or until Mitch Daniels decides to run for president, or my opinion of one of the other likely Republican candidates changes, it seems pretty likely I will end up voting for Obama.
    So if Mitch Daniels (a semi-solid right wing conservative) doesnt run, or your opinions of other likely Republican candidates dont improve...........

    ............your plan is to jump all the way to the other end of the poitical spectrum and elect the biggest Left Wing Extremist to ever stain the whitehouse?

    Why dont you just stick your finger in the air prior to entering the voting booth........as it seems you have the political spine of a jellyfish.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No, it would be tyranny if he was defying the will of the people AND the people didn't have any recourse.
    So its Tyranny in Egypt........here its called Statism.....or Liberalism.

    If you don't like him, you can vote him out of office in 2012.
    In the land of ACORN and The Paid Democrat Voter.........sure we can use our "free election" process.

    Assuming, of course, that his policies are as hated by the American people as you think they are. As it stands now, that does not appear to be the case with his approval ratings hovering somewhere in the 48-51% range.
    Please refer to: Nov, 2, 2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History........the rejection of Obama and Statism from sea to shining sea.

    It's stupid and infantile to call him a tyrant just because he's doing things you don't agree with.
    He isnt a Tyrant because he is doing things I dont agree with..........he is a Tyrant because he is doing things that 70% of WE THE PEOPLE disagree with.

    ....From Cap & Tax.....to ObamaCare.....the Majority of Americans disagree with The Kenyan Tyrant's entire agenda.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I know many Democrats that would...so yes.



    Proof? And please..no whackjob sites.



    His BC has been shown. No it is not false. Go read snopes.



    So? His regular birth certificate was. Do you need your long form birth certificate in order to apply for a job? No? Then why should it matter if Obama's is? The only reason that it matters is people don't like Obama...hell I wouldn't be surprised if this particular subject wasn't brought up by some KKK/Aryan Nation member.



    What's that got to do with the price of tea in china? His mother was American. Which is what matters considering a man cannot give birth to a child...unless you are suggesting otherwise? Does it really matter if his parents were married or not?



    Irrelevant. A persons religious beliefs has no bearing on whether he/she can become President of the US or not. It's his personal life, you have no right to it.



    Adoption records? Seriously? He was raised by his mother for the most part until her death. Then his GRANDMOTHER took care of him. No adoption papers even necessary...much less being around to be "sealed".



    Why would he need repatriation? He wasn't a refugee, nor a soldier, he is an American citizen he moved back to the states. So naturally it would "not be found". Because it doesn't exist.



    Was not found because they do not exist. Sotero was Obama's mothers second husband. His mother did not marry into the Sotero family until Obama was 5-6 years old. As such Obama's last name was NEVER Sotero.



    Not released because as far as I know he never went to elementary school in the States. He did go to a couple of muslim AND catholic schools in Jakarta though in his early years (between the ages 6-10/11 or around there I believe).



    So? Irrelevant.



    Why would people even need to see any college financial aid records? Seriously, who cares how he got educated?



    So? How are they relevant? Why would people need to know whats in them?



    And what thesis is it that you are refering to? Aristocracy Reborn (the most commonly claimed "thesis" that he wrote)? I would be surprised if it had been released. Considering that Obama never even wrote it.



    So?



    What lawyer worth even half a penny would release his/her client list? Seriously. There is absolutely no valid reason for ANY lawyers client list to be released outside of a criminal investigation into said lawyers practices. In fact without such a requirement releaseing such information would get any lawyer disbarred.



    What files? If you're talking about his voting record they are not sealed and open to the public. I've already looked at them and even counted how many times he voted "present" and noted the things that he voted "no" on. Any other files would naturally be sealed for any senator. Unless of course a criminal investigation was being done...AFAIK none has been.



    So?



    Nor should they be. There is no reason what so ever for people to know Obama's medical records.



    Irrelevant. Last I knew this was still a free country and people did not have to carry around or show thier papers. Much less blab them to the entire world.




    At least we can agree on something.
    So I believe Tom Brokaw sums up your entire argument .........



    .........you have no idea who the Kenyan Tyrant is...........and you dont care.


    Perhaps you could tell me ANY records or credentials you think WE THE PEOPLE should be able to view......prior to handing over the reigns of The Worlds Largest Economy and World's Greatest Superpower?

    .........to the most inexperienced, corrupt, non-transparent president in history............
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    .........you have no idea who the Kenyan Tyrant is...........and you dont care.
    I apparently know more than you since you couldn't refute a single thing I said in my post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Perhaps you could tell me ANY records or credentials you think WE THE PEOPLE should be able to view......prior to handing over the reigns of The Worlds Largest Economy and World's Greatest Superpower?
    You have them all already. You have a right to know that he is a natural born citizen of the US. (his BC handled this) You have the right to know his age (his BC also handled this). You have a right to know what schools he graduated from. You know this already as shown in the post that I responded to. You have a right to know how he voted as a senator, which is available and open to all. Note that this is not an exhaustive list...just a short list. Though in all actuality, legally, the only things that you really have a right to know are those outlined in the Constitution as qualifiers to become President of the US. Which is in Article 2 Section 1.

    You do not have the right to know the info in his passport. You do not have the right to know his medical history. You do have a right to know his grade school statistics (personally I'd really like to know how this would even be remotely relevant to him being POTUS). You don't have the right to know his client list as a lawyer.....Get the picture yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    .........to the most inexperienced, corrupt, non-transparent president in history............
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    I will agree that he is the most inexperienced. One of the reasons I didn't vote for him the first time around.

    Most corrupt? At this point in time that is just your opinion. Won't be fact until he gets charged with something worse than the watergate scandal. (fyi, I also think that he is the most corrupt..but that doesn't mean that he is until he is actually charged with something.)

    As for most non-transparent, I asked for proof of this in the post you responded to. Repeating it does not make it so. Proof please.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Personally I think that it's a wasted vote to vote for the "lesser of two evils". The voting process is suppose to be about showing the government what we the people want. If we always vote for the lesser of two evils then we are showing the government that we "want" crap to happen to us.
    It's a matter of opinion. If I vote for a 3rd party candidate, my only impact on the outcome of the election will be in terms of which of the two major candidates I take my vote away from. I know for a fact that the 3rd party candidate will not win, so to me it's a waste of a vote.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I apparently know more than you since you couldn't refute a single thing I said in my post.
    What would I have to refute since apparently every bit of data prior to Obama's political career is "Irrelevant"......in your book and Tom Brokaw's book.

    ............perhaps if the media didnt spend every waking moment in Wasilla dumpsters.......


    You have them all already. You have a right to know that he is a natural born citizen of the US. (his BC handled this) You have the right to know his age (his BC also handled this). You have a right to know what schools he graduated from. You know this already as shown in the post that I responded to. You have a right to know how he voted as a senator, which is available and open to all. Note that this is not an exhaustive list...just a short list. Though in all actuality, legally, the only things that you really have a right to know are those outlined in the Constitution as qualifiers to become President of the US. Which is in Article 2 Section 1.
    If there wasnt some issue with Obama's BC........the Kenyan Tyrant would have released it the moment this controversy arose.

    What I have a right to know and what is expected of the self proclaimed "Most Transparent President" in history is far between.

    You do not have the right to know the info in his passport. You do not have the right to know his medical history. You do have a right to know his grade school statistics (personally I'd really like to know how this would even be remotely relevant to him being POTUS). You don't have the right to know his client list as a lawyer.....Get the picture yet?
    Considering all his records are sealed..........nobody has the picture yet.....kinda like that missing Birth Certificate isnt it.
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