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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    I do plan on voting for him, with the qualification that up to now I think his performance has been only slightly above mediocre. But we really don't have all that many individuals to choose from in the first place.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Yo Dude......do you really think the Democrat Party would have any objection to having an Illegal Immigrant as president?
    I know many Democrats that would...so yes.

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    The Most Non-Transparent President in history......
    Proof? And please..no whackjob sites.

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    and yet your so confident in the never before seen Birth Certificate......
    His BC has been shown. No it is not false. Go read snopes.

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    1) The original, long-form 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate-not released
    So? His regular birth certificate was. Do you need your long form birth certificate in order to apply for a job? No? Then why should it matter if Obama's is? The only reason that it matters is people don't like Obama...hell I wouldn't be surprised if this particular subject wasn't brought up by some KKK/Aryan Nation member.

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    2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham) — not found, not released
    What's that got to do with the price of tea in china? His mother was American. Which is what matters considering a man cannot give birth to a child...unless you are suggesting otherwise? Does it really matter if his parents were married or not?

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    3) Obama’s baptism records — sealed
    Irrelevant. A persons religious beliefs has no bearing on whether he/she can become President of the US or not. It's his personal life, you have no right to it.

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    4) Obama’s adoption records — sealed
    Adoption records? Seriously? He was raised by his mother for the most part until her death. Then his GRANDMOTHER took care of him. No adoption papers even necessary...much less being around to be "sealed".

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    5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s reptriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia — not found, not released
    Why would he need repatriation? He wasn't a refugee, nor a soldier, he is an American citizen he moved back to the states. So naturally it would "not be found". Because it doesn't exist.

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    6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records — not found, not released
    Was not found because they do not exist. Sotero was Obama's mothers second husband. His mother did not marry into the Sotero family until Obama was 5-6 years old. As such Obama's last name was NEVER Sotero.

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    7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) — not released
    Not released because as far as I know he never went to elementary school in the States. He did go to a couple of muslim AND catholic schools in Jakarta though in his early years (between the ages 6-10/11 or around there I believe).

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    Punahou School financial aid or school records — not released
    So? Irrelevant.

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    9) Occidental College financial aid records — not released. (These records were, however, subpoenaed but Obama lawyers succeeded in quashing the subpoena in court. No other Occi records have been released.)
    Why would people even need to see any college financial aid records? Seriously, who cares how he got educated?

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    10) Columbia College records — not released
    So? How are they relevant? Why would people need to know whats in them?

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    11) Columbia senior thesis — not released
    And what thesis is it that you are refering to? Aristocracy Reborn (the most commonly claimed "thesis" that he wrote)? I would be surprised if it had been released. Considering that Obama never even wrote it.

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    12) Harvard Law School records (not mentioned below, but not released)
    So?

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    13) Obama’s law client list — sealed
    What lawyer worth even half a penny would release his/her client list? Seriously. There is absolutely no valid reason for ANY lawyers client list to be released outside of a criminal investigation into said lawyers practices. In fact without such a requirement releaseing such information would get any lawyer disbarred.

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    14) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator — sealed
    What files? If you're talking about his voting record they are not sealed and open to the public. I've already looked at them and even counted how many times he voted "present" and noted the things that he voted "no" on. Any other files would naturally be sealed for any senator. Unless of course a criminal investigation was being done...AFAIK none has been.

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    15) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association — sealed
    So?

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    16) Obama’s medical records — not released
    Nor should they be. There is no reason what so ever for people to know Obama's medical records.

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    17) Obama’s passport records — not released
    Irrelevant. Last I knew this was still a free country and people did not have to carry around or show thier papers. Much less blab them to the entire world.


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    Amen.........
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    It greatly depends on who the republicans run against him. I won't waste my vote on a third party.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    I believe Nov. 2, 2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History..........had plenty of sentiment from WE THE PEOPLE.
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    People can believe anything they want, and often do, but unless there is a sound basis for that belief, it means nothing.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    It greatly depends on who the republicans run against him. I won't waste my vote on a third party.
    Personally I think that it's a wasted vote to vote for the "lesser of two evils". The voting process is suppose to be about showing the government what we the people want. If we always vote for the lesser of two evils then we are showing the government that we "want" crap to happen to us.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Personally I think that it's a wasted vote to vote for the "lesser of two evils". The voting process is suppose to be about showing the government what we the people want. If we always vote for the lesser of two evils then we are showing the government that we "want" crap to happen to us.
    What "we want" is different for everybody, which is why it always ends up being the lesser of two evils.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    What "we want" is different for everybody, which is why it always ends up being the lesser of two evils.
    I'm talking on an individual basis. If I vote for myself then I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils. If you vote for yourself then you are not voting for the lesser of two evils. However if someone else were to vote on us and someone else looked at it they would consider that other person voting for me or you or both of us to be voting for the "lesser of two evils" (or greater..whichever).

    So basically I believe that as individuals we should be voting for who we think is the BEST, not who is the "lesser of two evils".
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    At this point.....

    ......over two years into Jimmy Carter's second term.......with Gitmo still open, with our troops still in Iraq and Afghanastan, 10% unemployment, 1 in 5 Americans unemployed/underemployed, 1 in 7 Americans living in Poverty, 1 in 7 Americans collecting foodstamps, 1 in 10 Americans facing foreclosure, The Largest Budget in US History, The Largest Budget Deficit in US History, The Largest National Debt in US History.......coming after The Largest Spending Bill in History, a subprime health care bill to nowhere, and The Kenyan Tyrant defying the Will of the American People on numerous occasions......

    ......do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?
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    I voted yes, but I should have abstained. You did not leave an option for "I have not seen the candidates yet." I don't make decisions on who I am going to vote for before all of the candidates are out there.

    As far as your other predictable comments:

    1) Troops are being withdrawn from Iraq. Also, anyone who voted for Obama voted for a guy who stated clearly that he planned on staying in Afghanistan.
    2) Employment, I believe is at 9%, but you'd have to be somewhat ignorant to blame Obama for unemployment to begin with.
    3) If you are worried about Americans living in poverty, you can start by writing your Congressmen to quit supporting these ridiculous cuts.
    4) As I recall, Obama has taken steps to reduce the budget by cutting non defense discretionary spending. These cuts will be extremely painful but are necessary (especially since we decided that keeping tax cuts for the rich was more important).
    5) I don't know how you can blame Obama for the National Debt. He inherited most of it and much of the bailouts were begun before he took office.
    6) I don't think you know what subprime means.
    7) Kenya? Really? Way to lose any credibility you may have had.

    Maybe Obama planned 9/11 with Bush too. Is this the conspiracy theory board?

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    Oh, and I am unhappy with Gitmo still being open. I am even more infuriated that the Patriot Act still exists and extraordinary rendition still occurs. I definitely have a bone to pick with the liberals in government.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by SDRivers760 View Post
    Mit Romney Ron Paul ticket...please no sarah palin!
    Mitt Romney and Ron Paul? How does that even make sense?


    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar
    No, it would be tyranny if he was defying the will of the people AND the people didn't have any recourse. If you don't like him, you can vote him out of office in 2012.
    Voting people out at set points of time does not avoid tyranny.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Do you know what would be great? An independent president who doesn't give a damn about all this party bull****. I'm voting for them. In all seriousness, I really think there should be a, "depends who he's running against" option.
    Last edited by Arcadius; 02-16-11 at 07:45 PM.
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