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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Which isnt a leftist view......
    I didn't say it was a leftist view, I said it was a liberal view. But let's not get into name calling.

    unless your calling the foreign policy of our Conservative Forefathers and Founders liberal.....
    I am saying that the liberal view of foreign policy more closely matches that of Ron Paul than Obama's view does.


    And that is where the agreement between Liberals and Dr. Paul begins and ends.........

    Yep, and that is too bad, or we could join forces and finally have a third party that could beat the Democrats and the Republicans.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post

    If Paul's social policy positions were as liberal as his foreign policy positions, he would steal all of Obama's liberal base.
    Abortion should be left to the states, the government should get out of marriage, the drug war is retarded and should be ended, he is anti-war and supports getting rid of the Cuban embargo. Abortion is the only one out of these that strains support from the left.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Abortion should be left to the states, the government should get out of marriage, the drug war is retarded and should be ended, he is anti-war and supports getting rid of the Cuban embargo. Abortion is the only one out of these that strains support from the left.
    You left out a few of the biggies there (as does Paul) as far as I am concerned:

    Social safetey net programs
    Education
    Environment
    Health care
    Civil rights
    Voting rights

    Those are obstacles I see to a meeting of the minds of libertarians and liberals. However, I think we should continue to work for, and find, common ground.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    And that is where the agreement between Liberals and Dr. Paul begins and ends.........
    Ron Paul and I agree on many issues. I would consider voting for him. Please, refrain from ever speaking for me as you are more than often wrong.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I didn't say it was a leftist view, I said it was a liberal view. But let's not get into name calling.
    Its not a liberal view.....its shared by many Conservatives, Republicans, Libertarians.

    I am saying that the liberal view of foreign policy more closely matches that of Ron Paul than Obama's view does.


    Yep, and that is too bad, or we could join forces and finally have a third party that could beat the Democrats and the Republicans.
    We dont need a thrid party.....we simply need to reclaim the Republican party.....which is what the Tea Party is doing. There is a reason Ron Paul runs on the Republican ticket.....
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Ron Paul and I agree on many issues. I would consider voting for him. Please, refrain from ever speaking for me as you are more than often wrong.
    To vote for Ron Paul is to disagree with Obama on 90% of the issues.......they are complete opposite ends of the political spectrum. Akin to saying you would consider voting for the extreme right......but maybe vote for the biggest Kenyan Leftist to ever stain the Whitehouse.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Its not a liberal view.....its shared by many Conservatives, Republicans, Libertarians.
    You can call it fried rice if you want! Glad to hear though that you agree with a non-intervention foreign policy.

    We dont need a thrid party.....we simply need to reclaim the Republican party.....which is what the Tea Party is doing. There is a reason Ron Paul runs on the Republican ticket.
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    The tea party supports Ron Paul's foreign policy positions? I would be interested in seeing the documentation you base that on, or is that just your feeling about it?
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    To vote for Ron Paul is to disagree with Obama on 90% of the issues.......they are complete opposite ends of the political spectrum
    McCain was at the far right of the political spectrum. We chose the one in the middle.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You can call it fried rice if you want! Glad to hear though that you agree with a non-intervention foreign policy.
    I agree with it with few exceptions.....but do not agree with the liberal view of cutting our military to Boy Scout status or attempting to balance the budget on the back of the military alone.

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    The tea party supports Ron Paul's foreign policy positions? I would be interested in seeing the documentation you base that on, or is that just your feeling about it?
    Well Im speaking as both a proud supporter of the Tea Party .....as well as a Ron Paul voter...........
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    McCain was at the far right of the political spectrum. We chose the one in the middle.
    Please.......McCamnesty spent more time on the liberal side of the aisle then his own.....he was the disgusting middle.

    Instead....50 million Americans were fooled into electing the extreme Left in Barack Obama.....rated THE MOST LIBERAL SENATOR in 2007.....even more a left wing whack job than self proclaimed socialist Bernie Sanders.

    If Barack Obama isnt the extreme Left.....who is?
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