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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    I will vote for Obama unless Ron Paul gets the republican nomination but I think we'll see hell freeze over first.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    At this point.....

    ......over two years into Jimmy Carter's second term.......with Gitmo still open, with our troops still in Iraq and Afghanastan, 10% unemployment, 1 in 5 Americans unemployed/underemployed, 1 in 7 Americans living in Poverty, 1 in 7 Americans collecting foodstamps, 1 in 10 Americans facing foreclosure, The Largest Budget in US History, The Largest Budget Deficit in US History, The Largest National Debt in US History.......coming after The Largest Spending Bill in History, a subprime health care bill to nowhere, and The Kenyan Tyrant defying the Will of the American People on numerous occasions......

    ......do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?
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    No. But I also will not vote for the opposition as the 'lesser of two evils'. I will vote, it may just not be for either mainstream candidate.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I will vote for Obama unless Ron Paul gets the republican nomination but I think we'll see hell freeze over first.
    How is Obama's policies a close second to Ron Pauls? Your choices seem contradictory.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    One more vote for the Kenyan Tyrant, not that the OP actually offered any alternatives.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    How is Obama's policies a close second to Ron Pauls? Your choices seem contradictory.
    I agree with most of Paul's policies but know he won't make the nomination. Obama is a closed second as far as policy because I don't believe he is as far left as the right makes him out to be and I trust him if we had a crisis. I'd rather have him than the losers that are vying for the republican nomination that talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Show me a republican that really cares about the deficit, and the middle class and isn't a war hawk and I'll vote for him or her. I'm not seeing it other than Paul.

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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I agree with most of Paul's policies but know he won't make the nomination.
    To say you agree with most of Paul's policies is to say you disagree with most of Obama's policies..........they are opposite ends of the political spectrum.

    Obama is a closed second as far as policy because I don't believe he is as far left as the right makes him out to be and I trust him if we had a crisis
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    He was ranked THE MOST LIBERAL SENATOR in 2007.......he is further left than Socialist Bernie Sanders. And who wouldnt trust the most inexperienced President in history, without any foreign policy experience and not a shred of military experience, in a time of crisis.

    I'd rather have him than the losers that are vying for the republican nomination that talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Show me a republican that really cares about the deficit, and the middle class and isn't a war hawk and I'll vote for him or her. I'm not seeing it other than Paul.
    So you care about the deficit, and yet your pondering voting for Obama.....who has spent more than all previous administrations...COMBINED.

    You think Obama cares about the Middle Class and the Poor?

    ...........is this the same Multi-millionaire Barack Obama who has a $12/yr brother living in a hut and ****ing in a bucket, and an aunt sucking the government teet while living in a Boston slum?
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    To say you agree with most of Paul's policies is to say you disagree with most of Obama's policies..........they are opposite ends of the political spectrum.
    Actually, some of Paul's policy positions are much more liberal than Obama's. Compare their policy positions on: Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, military spending, non-interventionism, al Qaeda, our "war on terror", our military bases around the world, etc.

    If Paul's social policy positions were as liberal as his foreign policy positions, he would steal all of Obama's liberal base.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Actually, some of Paul's policy positions are much more liberal than Obama's. Compare their policy positions on: Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, military spending, non-interventionism, al Qaeda, our "war on terror", our military bases around the world, etc.
    They have similar views on the Military, perhaps a few social issues, and nothing else.

    If Paul's social policy positions were as liberal as his foreign policy positions, he would steal all of Obama's liberal base.
    Except Paul has a view of government similar to that of the Founders and Forefathers.......which leaves Democrats with a sour taste in their mouth in place of a Government teet.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    They have similar views on the Military, perhaps a few social issues, and nothing else.
    Their views on foreign policy are not similar at all. Paul's views are a mile to the left of Obama on foreign policy. He thinks our military should be a defensive force pretty much contained within our own borders. None of this nation building stuff though wars that Obama has continued in Afghanistan.

    "If Paul's social policy positions were as liberal as his foreign policy positions, he would steal all of Obama's liberal base."

    Except Paul has a view of government similar to that of the Founders and Forefathers.......which leaves Democrats with a sour taste in their mouth in place of a Government teet.
    Democrats and Republicans both tend to be more moderate than true conservatives or true liberals, that's why they win elections, but there is no doubt in my mind that liberals prefer Paul's foreign policy to that of Obama's.
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    Re: At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Their views on foreign policy are not similar at all. Paul's views are a mile to the left of Obama on foreign policy. He thinks our military should be a defensive force pretty much contained within our own borders.
    Which isnt a leftist view......unless your calling the foreign policy of our Conservative Forefathers and Founders liberal.....

    Im as far right as our Forefathers and Founders......and I agree with them and Dr. Paul on Foreign Policy....with few exceptions.

    None of this nation building stuff though wars that Obama has continued in Afghanistan.

    "If Paul's social policy positions were as liberal as his foreign policy positions, he would steal all of Obama's liberal base."



    Democrats and Republicans both tend to be more moderate than true conservatives or true liberals, that's why they win elections, but there is no doubt in my mind that liberals prefer Paul's foreign policy to that of Obama's.
    And that is where the agreement between Liberals and Dr. Paul begins and ends.........
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