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    Re: Is violence an acceptable political tactic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I thought the animal rights faux “Wanted” poster just as offensive.
    Look man, people who are passionate about certain issues might make posters/signs that others might find inflammatory. In none of these posters do I find suggestions to engage in violence.

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    Re: Is violence an acceptable political tactic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I thought the animal rights faux “Wanted” poster just as offensive.
    You're talking about posters and picket signs. Where's your outrage over actual violence?

    According to the Center for Union Facts, an average of nearly 300 incidents of (reported) union violence occur every year. In one example, a three-year strike conducted by the Teamsters against the trucking company, Overnite Transportation (now UPS Freight), produced 55 shootings and prompted the Teamsters to settle with the National Labor Relations Board by posting a four-page notice on the union’s website where the union agreed that (among other things):

    “WE WILL NOT brandish or carry any weapon of any kind, including, but not limited to, guns, knives, slingshots, rocks, ball bearings, liquid-filled balloons or other projectiles, sledge hammers, bricks, sticks, or two by fours . . ..

    “WE WILL NOT use or threaten to use a weapon of any kind, including but not limited to guns, knives, slingshots, rocks, ball bearings, liquid-filled balloons or other projectiles, picket signs, sticks, sledge hammers, bricks, hot coffee, bottles, two by fours, lit cigarettes, eggs, or bags or balloons filled with excrement . . ..

    WE WILL NOT damage, threaten to damage or attempt to damage any vehicle or equipment owned or operated by Overnite, its employees or security guards, by any means or manner, including but not limited by slingshots, rocks, ball bearings, liquid-filled balloons or other projectiles, knives, picket signs, sticks, sledge hammers, bricks, bottles, two by fours, eggs, or paint, or by tearing off mirrors, windshield wipers or antennas, or breaking windows.

    WE WILL NOT disable or attempt to disable vehicles owned or operated by Ovemite, by any means or manner, including but not limited to disconnecting or otherwise severing air brake lines, padlocking doors, spraying substances in or otherwise jamming locks, stealing keys, puncturing radiators, cutting hoses or door cables, flattening tires or throwing, placing or otherwise spreading any nails, screws, star nails, jack rocks or similar devices capable of puncturing tires on any road surface.

    WE WILL NOT endanger or impede the progress of or harass any non-striking employee or any employee of a neutral person doing business with Ovemite, while he or she is operating a company vehicle or his or her own personal vehicle, by forcing or attempting to force him or her off the road, blocking, delaying or limiting his or her access to or passage on any road, swerving toward, driving recklessly near, tailgating or braking abruptly in front of him or her, impeding his or her progress by speeding up and slowing down, driving at speeds below the legal minimums while in front of him or her. [Emphasis added.]

    [To read the rest of the notice (in PDF), go here.]
    http://www.redstate.com/laborunionre...stop-mr-stern/

    You know things have gotten out of hand when you have to expressly make promises like that on your website.
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    Re: Is violence an acceptable political tactic?

    Violence can be useful, in the right context. Abortion bombers are lame. Timothy McVeigh was a moron. Etc.

    I don't think civil disobedience works anymore. It's been done enough now that government has honed in on the tactics and doesn't seem afraid to send in riot police to violently break up crowds or even use the military in some other countries.

    I think citizens of free countries should always be prepared to get violent. The government MUST answer to the people at all times and when they don't do that, they need to be given notice.

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    Re: Is violence an acceptable political tactic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Violence can be useful, in the right context. Abortion bombers are lame. Timothy McVeigh was a moron. Etc.

    I don't think civil disobedience works anymore. It's been done enough now that government has honed in on the tactics and doesn't seem afraid to send in riot police to violently break up crowds or even use the military in some other countries.

    I think citizens of free countries should always be prepared to get violent. The government MUST answer to the people at all times and when they don't do that, they need to be given notice.
    This/in bold is one of the biggest problems in our country right now.
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    Re: Is violence an acceptable political tactic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    This/in bold is one of the biggest problems in our country right now.
    Most of our people are too unhealthy or uneducated to rebel. That's the problem with democracy, the people need to stay fit and aware for it to work. Look at Americans... the things people think about us are true. Our senses have been dulled and our waistlines are huge. Revolution isn't going to happen. Our government learned to keep us quiet a long time ago, and the few that do rise up end up black bagged.

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    Re: Is violence an acceptable political tactic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Apart from your lousy history, for TurtleDude, I see, violence in American politics is an acceptable tactic.
    lousy is libspeak for pointing out a reality that conflicts with your views? You love a state of disarmed citizens.



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    Re: Is violence an acceptable political tactic?

    If government-powers use violence to subdue you then violence might be understandable in a push to overthrow them.
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
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    Re: Is violence an acceptable political tactic?

    Violent actions give the government just cause to act with violence in kind. In this day and age you can't effectively fight government oppression with violence. The government can't just go and murder peaceful protesters without significant backlash, but they can defend against militant radicals seeking to destroy their great nation.
    Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime.~ Ernest Hemingway

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    Re: Is violence an acceptable political tactic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Is violence an acceptable political tactic? No. But the anti-abortion movement in this country seems not to agree.
    Lets keep abortion out of this.
    I voted "I do not know".
    Define "violence".
    Centuries ago, men dueled over political squabbles. Today we use slurs, insults, put downs, other little nasties(lies and spins)....but some still use easily obtained bullets.
    Of course, civilization and sanity dictate that violence is not a part of the political arena...
    I'd like to see the Liberals above this animistic behavour....this is but a dream.

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    Re: Is violence an acceptable political tactic?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm part of the anti-abortion movement and I don't support violence. Your generalizations are false. So I guess the pro-choice movement is more violent because more babies have been delivered and murdered than abortion doctors murdered by crazy people? The pro-choice movement seems to not agree, as they have no problem with delivering babies alive and then murdering them in inhumane ways (and by pro-choice I mean a handful of "doctors." They define the whole group though).
    As I have written often, Digsbe, "We need a better people.".
    Give it time, a lot of time.

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