View Poll Results: Do you support Obama's continuation of the war in Afghanistan?

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  • Yes, I support Obama's continuation of the war in Afghanistan.

    15 34.88%
  • No, I don't support Obama's continuation of the war in Afghanistan.

    22 51.16%
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    Re: Do you support Obama in continuing the Afghanistan war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    That's becuase for some people war isn't about political ****ology.
    Of course, I oppose Obama's foreign policy, but I voted for him knowing he was just the lesser of two evils. But many still seem to be under the illusion that Obama is a liberal, when he fact he is right of center on many issues such as our war in Afghanistan.
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    Re: Do you support Obama in continuing the Afghanistan war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Of course, I oppose Obama's foreign policy, but I voted for him knowing he was just the lesser of two evils. But many still seem to be under the illusion that Obama is a liberal, when he fact he is right of center on many issues such as our war in Afghanistan.
    He's only been forced to take stands away from his liberal views because he is president and tries to appease an entire country.
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    Re: Do you support Obama in continuing the Afghanistan war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    He's only been forced to take stands away from his liberal views because he is president and tries to appease an entire country.
    We knew before he was president what his views were on Afghanistan, they were just as hawkish then as they are now. If he were trying to appease the country, he would end the war as that is what the majority of Americans want now.
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    Re: Do you support Obama in continuing the Afghanistan war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We knew before he was president what his views were on Afghanistan, they were just as hawkish then as they are now. If he were trying to appease the country, he would end the war as that is what the majority of Americans want now.
    There isn't a single poll which I'd claim as accurate.

    I've seen everything from 30% supporting to 70% supporting - talk about a wide margin of error
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    Re: Do you support Obama in continuing the Afghanistan war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    There isn't a single poll which I'd claim as accurate.

    I've seen everything from 30% supporting to 70% supporting - talk about a wide margin of error
    This year? All that I've seen show a majority opposed:

    CNN Poll: U.S. opposition to Afghanistan war remains high

    "More than six in ten Americans oppose the U.S. war in Afghanistan, according to a new national poll. And a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Thursday also indicates that 56 percent of the public believes that things are going badly for the U.S. in Afghanistan."

    US view of Pakistan, Afghanistan at new low

    "Some 14 per cent of Americans have a favorable view of Afghanistan and 82 per cent hold a negative review, the Gallup poll said. For Pakistan, 18 per cent saw the country favorably and 76 per cent viewed it unfavorably."
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    Re: Do you support Obama in continuing the Afghanistan war?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    From a pragmatic point of view, a stable, pro-west democracy would be very beneficial in a resource rich country such as Afghanistan, and could help stabilise the region, and my personal point of view is that the Afghan people deserve a stable democracy.
    If it's a democracy it's definitely not going to be pro-west.

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    Re: Do you support Obama in continuing the Afghanistan war?

    9 years is long enough, time to go home.
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    Re: Do you support Obama in continuing the Afghanistan war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    This year? All that I've seen show a majority opposed:

    CNN Poll: U.S. opposition to Afghanistan war remains high

    "More than six in ten Americans oppose the U.S. war in Afghanistan, according to a new national poll. And a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Thursday also indicates that 56 percent of the public believes that things are going badly for the U.S. in Afghanistan."

    US view of Pakistan, Afghanistan at new low

    "Some 14 per cent of Americans have a favorable view of Afghanistan and 82 per cent hold a negative review, the Gallup poll said. For Pakistan, 18 per cent saw the country favorably and 76 per cent viewed it unfavorably."
    Great examples of why I don't follow polls at all - they're too limited and can be easily skewed. To me they are interesting but meaningless.

    The first one (CNN) is based on phone-surveys taken from 1,008 adults - Do you *think* that 1000 out of several million is an accurate sampling?
    Gallup (the 2nd) also based it's findings from a pool of close to 1,000, as well. Again - do you *think* that it is an accurate showing of the entire country?

    No - it is not. I don't believe that a miniscule sampling of the population via phone can remotely come close to accurately defining a country's overall view.
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    Re: Do you support Obama in continuing the Afghanistan war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Great examples of why I don't follow polls at all - they're too limited and can be easily skewed. To me they are interesting but meaningless.

    The first one (CNN) is based on phone-surveys taken from 1,008 adults - Do you *think* that 1000 out of several million is an accurate sampling?
    Gallup (the 2nd) also based it's findings from a pool of close to 1,000, as well. Again - do you *think* that it is an accurate showing of the entire country?

    No - it is not. I don't believe that a miniscule sampling of the population via phone can remotely come close to accurately defining a country's overall view.
    You intimated that Obama's continuation of the war in Afghanistan was to appease the country, rather than being the very same hawkish position he had on Afghanistan during the run up to his election. Your statement would assume there was a majority who supported our continuation of the war. If you do not believe the polls, what do you base your assumption on that a majority of the country supports the continuation of the war?
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    Re: Do you support Obama in continuing the Afghanistan war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You intimated that Obama's continuation of the war in Afghanistan was to appease the country, rather than being the very same hawkish position he had on Afghanistan during the run up to his election. Your statement would assume there was a majority who supported our continuation of the war. If you do not believe the polls, what do you base your assumption on that a majority of the country supports the continuation of the war?
    He held his views on Afghanistan long before he was committed to running for office - so certainly long before he was elected.
    I don't believe his Afghanistan views *makes* him a centrist, moderate or anything else - He *is* a liberal on a deep, fundamental level.

    And polls that you value - or the occasional compromise - is not changing that.

    Perhaps if I used the term 'compromise' or 'flex' instead of 'appease' it would have been more accurate?
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