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    Re: Is This Man a Faith Healer?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    I'm calling you out at a liar
    I'm afraid I can't get to a liar at the moment.

    Here is a thread on homeopathy started yesterday. Its about James Randi $1,000,000 challenege to show that any homeopathic treatement works as advertised.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/religi...ed-effect.html
    I'm with James Randi. As I said in my previous post, the claims of homoeopathy to being scientifically proven, or even provable, are bunk. That doesn't mean it doesn't work, for those who believe it does. Repeating: it may have similar or better results than pure placebo and certainly costs a hell of a lot more, but this comment of yours...
    Then you don't need to buy a $25 homeopathy treatment. Just take a sugar pill.
    ...clearly shows you don't understand how the placebo effect works.

    Now, toddle off and sneer at someone who DOES believe in the 'science' of homoeopathy.
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    Re: Is This Man a Faith Healer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    A doctor who can do no better than a placebo is a quack.
    Someone who claims to be doing better, when they're not, is a quack.

    Why not? Some people were supposedly cured, and others were presumably not. That seems relatively easy to have a control group and a test group. Why can't he do a double-blind experiment and write the results up for a respected medical journal?
    Because a lot of the ailments that seem to be most helped by this approach are difficult to quantify or measure using physical evidence. Didn't you notice the two people interviewed in the video? The first was a woman who said she was partially sighted and then, after visiting Dr Nemeh, said she could see her sons properly for the first time. The second was a chap claiming to have suffered from chronic myalgia for years. He visited the Doc and waddyaknow?

    All sorts of ailments that allopathic medicine really struggles to have a effect on are the life-blood for alternative therapists: allergies, chronic pain, chronic fatigue, palpitations, digestive complaints, food intolerances etc etc. In other words, a whole load of complaints that have very physical manifestations of psychosomatic origin. The mystical, faith or New Age-y elements of the treatment, the talking part of the cure, are what elevates the rate of healing above the straight placebo effect. Whether it's much above, and whether that improvement is worth the money it can cost, is debateable.



    If people believe that they are taking part in a treatment program with a high likelihood of success, they are unlikely to be searching for other treatment programs.
    That might be true, but it might not. I think it depends on the individual. I do know people who have had their ME dismissed by traditional doctors and had it alleviated 90% by acupuncture and shiatsu massage. They went through the entire allopathic labyrinth before trying the alternative.
    Last edited by Andalublue; 02-17-11 at 05:06 AM.
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