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    Re: Does Article III Give SCOTUS The Right To Toss A Law Signed By The President?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Pretty good checks and balances...except for one. Nobody, and I mean nobody, overrules SCOTUS. Hmmmm.....
    Not true, congress & states can change the constitution

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    Re: Does Article III Give SCOTUS The Right To Toss A Law Signed By The President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Not to spoil anyone's fun, but he is referring to Jury Nullification. If people thing a law is wrong or its application is wrong then they can give a verdict Not Guilty.
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    Re: Does Article III Give SCOTUS The Right To Toss A Law Signed By The President?

    To answer the OP yes the Supreme Court can.

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    Re: Does Article III Give SCOTUS The Right To Toss A Law Signed By The President?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Yeah, in 1803 the court gave itself this power.
    However, 2 presidents (at least) thus far have ignored the ruling of the SCOTUS.
    Marbury vs Madison is not the soul of the court. Congress can pass a law overriding the court. The court is not an all powerful dictatorship. Liberals consider the court their congress, because they can't get the people to vote for their crap. So they count on the court to make law out of law suits.
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    Re: Does Article III Give SCOTUS The Right To Toss A Law Signed By The President?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Pretty good checks and balances...except for one. Nobody, and I mean nobody, overrules SCOTUS. Hmmmm.....
    But here's what keeps the Supreme Court from taking over the federal government.

    1) They do not have the power to write laws.
    While they rule on laws and can strike laws down, they cannot write new laws. Rather, they can only ask Congress to write laws that are constitutional. And Congress, of their own accord, can rewrite laws to make it uphold the scrutiny of the Supreme Court.

    2) They do not have the power to enforce laws.
    Again, while they can rule unconstitutional the laws and acts of Congress and the President, they do not rule over any executive agencies. The President is in charge of those. So while the Supreme Court can rule the laws and acts of Congress and the President unconstitutional, it is up to President to enforce SCOTUS' rulings and up to Congress to abide by them. If the President and Congress choose to ignore SCOTUS' rulings, there is very little SCOTUS can technically do about it. However, Congress and the President usually don't because our military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution despite the President being commander-in-chief and Congress providing funding.

    So I'm not worried about the Supreme Court having the powers that they do have.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Does Article III Give SCOTUS The Right To Toss A Law Signed By The President?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    But if someone challenges that law, it can go to the SCOTUS again.


    It's not really true that no one overrules SCOTUS anyway.

    Jackson and Nixon anyone? The SCOTUS has only the will of the people behind it, while the POTUS has the power of the sword and Congress has the power of the purse.
    Two presidents out of 44 presidencies. That means 42 presidencies have respected the Supreme Court of their rulings. So abiding their rulings is by far the norm.

    Also, while Congress certainly does have the power of the purse, the President doesn't entirely have the power of the sword. While the President is commander-in-chief of the U.S. military, our soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen swear an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution. Which means the military are perfectly within their rights to ignore orders from a President that go against a ruling from the Supreme Court.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Does Article III Give SCOTUS The Right To Toss A Law Signed By The President?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Marbury vs Madison is not the soul of the court. Congress can pass a law overriding the court. The court is not an all powerful dictatorship. Liberals consider the court their congress, because they can't get the people to vote for their crap. So they count on the court to make law out of law suits.
    The courts can't pass laws though. All they can do is declare other laws null.

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    Re: Does Article III Give SCOTUS The Right To Toss A Law Signed By The President?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Marbury vs Madison is not the soul of the court. Congress can pass a law overriding the court. The court is not an all powerful dictatorship. Liberals consider the court their congress, because they can't get the people to vote for their crap. So they count on the court to make law out of law suits.
    I'm shocked you assert this, considering we have one of the most conservative Supreme Court justice composition in history. They've consistently ruled against the political left.

    For example, there's strong opposition from the left against Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. I consider that one of the worst decisions ever rendered by the Court

    Yes, as a branch of government the Supreme Court has a grand role to play in protecting the Constitution. It has played a very important role in the past. Brown v. Board of Education is the best illustration of an instance where the Supreme Court upheld the Constitution when the other branches of government would not.
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