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New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

What of the New Ban.

  • Good

    Votes: 19 27.1%
  • Too far

    Votes: 49 70.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 2.9%

  • Total voters
    70
It's ridiculous.
 
That's stupid, if you don't like smokers, move upwind, it doesn't hurt.
 
It depends. Is the ban really about the clean, fresh air or is it more about the fact that people are slobs and keep littering the place with cigarette butts?

I'm all for keeping parks and beaches as clean as possible.
 
It depends. Is the ban really about the clean, fresh air or is it more about the fact that people are slobs and keep littering the place with cigarette butts?

I'm all for keeping parks and beaches as clean as possible.

Even if it infringes on individual freedom?
 
It depends. Is the ban really about the clean, fresh air or is it more about the fact that people are slobs and keep littering the place with cigarette butts?

I'm all for keeping parks and beaches as clean as possible.

Littering is already illegal. What are they going to ban next? Eating popsickles on public?
 
Too far i say.

I support smoking bans for public buildings, but outside, come on now...
 
Even if it infringes on individual freedom?

It's either a complete ban or putting a fines system in place that would be impossible to enforce. :shrug: Public parks and beaches are not private property. Their upkeep is the responsibility of the state. I have no problem with this at all. I'm against smoking bans on private property, though, like bars, restaurants etc...
 
It's either a complete ban or putting a fines system in place that would be impossible to enforce. :shrug: Public parks and beaches are not private property. Their upkeep is the responsibility of the state. I have no problem with this at all. I'm against smoking bans on private property, though, like bars, restaurants etc...

Or there can be no ban.
 
You must always see such measures for what they truly are. They are not about public health or safety, or littering, at the very core of this and all other policing of habits, is control of the people. You are too stupid, friendo, you need Big Brother to guide your life and keep you on the wagon like a good churl.
 
You must always see such measures for what they truly are. They are not about public health or safety, or littering, at the very core of this and all other policing of habits, is control of the people. You are too stupid, friendo, you need Big Brother to guide your life and keep you on the wagon like a good churl.

:lol::roll:
 
This is ridiculous, if your outside it shouldn't matter.
 
It's probably more about litter. It costs the city money to supply butt receptacles, empty them, dispose of the butts and clean up after smokers. Littering laws are ineffective and hard to enforce. Smokers not policing themselves led to this law. They can blame themselves.
 
It's probably more about litter. It costs the city money to supply butt receptacles, empty them, dispose of the butts and clean up after smokers. Littering laws are ineffective and hard to enforce. Smokers not policing themselves led to this law. They can blame themselves.
Yeah, but the cups, cans, bottles, dirty diapers, newspaper, paper wrappings, old food, dog **** and used needles are nooooooo problem.
 
Yeah, but the cups, cans, bottles, dirty diapers, newspaper, paper wrappings, old food, dog **** and used needles are nooooooo problem.

Hey hey hey, smokers brought this on themselves. As for readers, eaters, drinkers, and pet owners....they'll get theirs soon enough. But it's easier to get people to freak out about smoking than it is about eating McDonald's.

But in seriousness, the law is retarded. But IMO its not about health or litering. It's about creating another law with another fine so that the government can squeeze more out of ya. More and more and more laws, but we don't really seem to get rid of any old ones. Maybe that's not the best route to take.
 
Hey hey hey, smokers brought this on themselves. As for readers, eaters, drinkers, and pet owners....they'll get theirs soon enough. But it's easier to get people to freak out about smoking than it is about eating McDonald's.

But in seriousness, the law is retarded. But IMO its not about health or litering. It's about creating another law with another fine so that the government can squeeze more out of ya. More and more and more laws, but we don't really seem to get rid of any old ones. Maybe that's not the best route to take.
Probably the bottom line truth of any of these stupid ordinances.
 
Hey hey hey, smokers brought this on themselves. As for readers, eaters, drinkers, and pet owners....they'll get theirs soon enough. But it's easier to get people to freak out about smoking than it is about eating McDonald's.

But in seriousness, the law is retarded. But IMO its not about health or litering. It's about creating another law with another fine so that the government can squeeze more out of ya. More and more and more laws, but we don't really seem to get rid of any old ones. Maybe that's not the best route to take.

It's more about social engineering a society.
 
Yeah, but the cups, cans, bottles, dirty diapers, newspaper, paper wrappings, old food, dog **** and used needles are nooooooo problem.

Of course they are. Someday those items will be banned in public places too. Some already are. Glass bottles were banned on beaches years ago. Was that part of a plan to social engineer?.
 
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Of course they are. Someday those items will be banned in public places too.
And you see no problem with this? So you'll be able to go to a park, just don't bring any food, drink, diapers, reading material or your dog. Sounds fun.

Some already are. Glass bottles were banned on beaches years ago. Was that part of a plan to social engineer?.
What that does is keep families from drinking Snapple while doing nothing to discourage the beer bottles left by the bums overnight.
 
What that does is keep families from drinking Snapple while doing nothing to discourage the beer bottles left by the bums overnight.
No it reduces the amount of broken glass in the sand.
 
And you see no problem with this? So you'll be able to go to a park, just don't bring any food, drink, diapers, reading material or your dog. Sounds fun.
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Maybe people should start cleaning up after themselves.
 
Maybe people should start cleaning up after themselves.

They should, but not all will. Because not all will, does that mean everyone gets punished? That sort of thing may have flown when one was a kid, but as adults we are the ones who control government; not the other way around. If we're going to accept some litering so that we can still enjoy some freedoms, then that's how it's gonna be. Maybe we'll pay to make sure that there is someone to clean it up.
 
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