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New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

What of the New Ban.

  • Good

    Votes: 19 27.1%
  • Too far

    Votes: 49 70.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 2.9%

  • Total voters
    70
I like cheese. Keep the wine though. I don't drink. Interesting how you didn't actually answer the question put to you though.....

Ok here is your answer. Smokers are coming off like big whining crybabies here.

I like a cold beer everyonce in awhile. There are beaches where alcohol beverages are banned but I can still go to that beach and have a good time without a temper tantrum. If I wanted to I could have a few drinks before going onto the beach and enjoy it all. It isn't the end of the world not having a cold one in my hand while sitting on the beach.
 
The ban will encompass pedestrian areas such as the one in Times Square. The Parks Department will be empowered with imposing fines under $100, but the ban will be mostly self-enforced. By raising awareness about non-smoking areas in the city councillors who voted for the ban are relying on the public to be vigilant about smokers breaking the law by informing them that it is illegal to smoke in these public areas. Police will not be enforcing the anti-smoking law.

lol really? the councillors are relying on the public to inform others that it is illegal to smoke in these public areas because the police won't be enforcing this new law?

good luck with that.
 
Ok here is your answer. Smokers are coming off like big whining crybabies here.

It's the other way around. The crying is coming from people who don't want the choice. I don't even smoke, can't stand it. But I'm not willing to tell a property owner that they can't allow a legal activity on their property because some jerkwad over there is crying about smoke. As for outside, for the love of **** have we become the French in this country? Pissing and moaning about everything. "Oh there's a smoker over there" *insert pretend coughing* "Don't they know how icky that is...I'm going to go cry to government till they make a law cause heaven forbid I walk my fat ass 15 feet that way!" It's just crying, the whole way. I'd rather allow the choice and deal with the consequences of people being free, then to run to government every time someone offends one of my senses clamoring for another law.
 
It's the other way around. The crying is coming from people who don't want the choice. I don't even smoke, can't stand it. But I'm not willing to tell a property owner that they can't allow a legal activity on their property because some jerkwad over there is crying about smoke. As for outside, for the love of **** have we become the French in this country? Pissing and moaning about everything. "Oh there's a smoker over there" *insert pretend coughing* "Don't they know how icky that is...I'm going to go cry to government till they make a law cause heaven forbid I walk my fat ass 15 feet that way!" It's just crying, the whole way. I'd rather allow the choice and deal with the consequences of people being free, then to run to government every time someone offends one of my senses clamoring for another law.


I noticed how you carefully ignored my comment about banning of alcohol on some beaches in that same post.
How do you feel about the banning of alcohol on some public beaches?
I imagine you have a good idea why alcohol got banned. Some people could go to the beach and have a beer and be respectful of others. But it was that element who littered broken bottles and became alcohol tough that caused the banning.

But like drinkers you get that same element of smokers who littered the beach with the cig butts and had no problem sitting their fat asses down in the middle of non smokers and blowing smoke everywhere.

I am not against someone smoking on their private property. Go for it.
 
Ok here is your answer. Smokers are coming off like big whining crybabies here.

So the ones speaking the truth are whiners. Gotcha.

I like a cold beer everyonce in awhile. There are beaches where alcohol beverages are banned but I can still go to that beach and have a good time without a temper tantrum. If I wanted to I could have a few drinks before going onto the beach and enjoy it all. It isn't the end of the world not having a cold one in my hand while sitting on the beach.

Banned because of broken glass. That's a far cry from banning something just because you don't like it. Not even in the same league.

Ya know I don't really mind those that B**** about it for health reasons, at least they have a semi-valid reason (only "semi" because the actual effects of SHS are far and away overblown), but when they do so just because they don't like it? That's nothing more than pure unadulterated BS.
 
so how many of you people are actually going to be willing to confront the smokers? how many will do it in a polite and friendly way? what exactly are you going to do if the person you are speaking to is not receptive to your advice? what if the encounter turns violent? it is completely ludicrous that citizens are expected to enforce this. there's a real possiblity that things could turn volatile and someone could get hurt.

I should not laugh but this post makes me wanna say " lock up your kids, animals and lungs" cause the smokers are here and they mad. "

Step Away From the Beach Folks! There are smokers coming. You really cannot stop those Full Flavor Marlboro smokers. They are the worse. They may jack up your lungs and try to blow some smoke your way. If this happens? Be prepared to Run! :lamo
 
I should not laugh but this post makes me wanna say " lock up your kids, animals and lungs" cause the smokers are here and they mad. "

Step Away From the Beach Folks! There are smokers coming. You really cannot stop those Full Flavor Marlboro smokers. They are the worse. They may jack up your lungs and try to blow some smoke your way. If this happens? Be prepared to Run! :lamo

hide yo kids, hide yo wife and hide yo husband cause dey smokin eer body in here.
 
I noticed how you carefully ignored my comment about banning of alcohol on some beaches in that same post.
How do you feel about the banning of alcohol on some public beaches?

In general, alcohol being banned in public (there are not many places you can walk down the street with a beer) is stupid. Drinking is a legal activity and should be allowed.

I am not against someone smoking on their private property. Go for it.

That depends on whether or not you support the ban on smoking in bars, restaurants, etc.
 
In general, alcohol being banned in public (there are not many places you can walk down the street with a beer) is stupid. Drinking is a legal activity and should be allowed.



That depends on whether or not you support the ban on smoking in bars, restaurants, etc.

Las Vegas allows you to carry and drink on the street and it seems to work there. I know I appreciated going there, not being able to finish a drink, and sim0ly taking it with you. It fres up space in the restaurant for those who want to also eat. I would think that each locality should be able to mold a law which fits the culture and population of that particular community. I do nto think anybody has a right to drink on the street as it is a public place. But I have no objection to communities who want to allow it.
 
With the type of cigarettes that I smoke how much do you want to bet that my cigarettes will decompose a hell of a lot quicker than those plastic products?

Where I live, those plastic products rarely stay on the road for more than an hour or two as an eldery person looking to supplement their income will pick it up and bring it to a recycling center...
 
Dog feces will deteriorate faster than cigarette butts too but I don't care to sit on a beach filled with it.

One can debate about the health risks of smoking, 2nd hand smoking, and someone'a uncle who lived to 96 smoking Marlboro but for me I simply don't care.

I just hate the smell of cig smoke. And someone will bring up about people wearing perfume and yes that is annoying but perfume does not permeate the size of an area as a cig will.

For decades the non-smokers had to deal with smokers everywhere. Now the table has turned. Deal with it.

So just because you hate the smell of smoke everybody in the U.S. should stop smoking?
A bit selfish don't ya think?

On the health issue, say if I was to say I don't like the smell or looks of overweight people and a law was passed to serve only healthy foods to everybody overweight that would stop a lot of high blood pressure, stroke,ect., would it not?
 
It's the other way around. The crying is coming from people who don't want the choice. I don't even smoke, can't stand it. But I'm not willing to tell a property owner that they can't allow a legal activity on their property because some jerkwad over there is crying about smoke. As for outside, for the love of **** have we become the French in this country? Pissing and moaning about everything. "Oh there's a smoker over there" *insert pretend coughing* "Don't they know how icky that is...I'm going to go cry to government till they make a law cause heaven forbid I walk my fat ass 15 feet that way!" It's just crying, the whole way. I'd rather allow the choice and deal with the consequences of people being free, then to run to government every time someone offends one of my senses clamoring for another law.

An excellant post sir.

To often we forget the right to choose in this country.
I respect your choice not to smoke.

As I have said in a previous post,
In many states one can not even have an establishment for smokers only.
Now if nonsmokers can have an establishment for nonsmokers.
Why can't smokers have an establishment for smokers only?
 
So just because you hate the smell of smoke everybody in the U.S. should stop smoking?
A bit selfish don't ya think?

On the health issue, say if I was to say I don't like the smell or looks of overweight people and a law was passed to serve only healthy foods to everybody overweight that would stop a lot of high blood pressure, stroke,ect., would it not?

Weak.
Never said that everybody in the US should stop smoking did I. Full outright lie.

You can smoke all you want on your private property or your vehicles. Areas where there are large number of people one should refrain from spreading there smoke everywhere. Hunting or camping where you are not butt cheek to butt cheek to everyone else you can smoke without disturbing others. What is the big problem?

A bit selfish is a smoker sitting his fat ass on a beach and smoking up the air for everyone.

The comparison of overweight people and smokers is weak. Apples and oranges and you know it.
 
Weak.
Never said that everybody in the US should stop smoking did I. Full outright lie.

You can smoke all you want on your private property or your vehicles. Areas where there are large number of people one should refrain from spreading there smoke everywhere. Hunting or camping where you are not butt cheek to butt cheek to everyone else you can smoke without disturbing others. What is the big problem?

A bit selfish is a smoker sitting his fat ass on a beach and smoking up the air for everyone.

The comparison of overweight people and smokers is weak. Apples and oranges and you know it.

Tons of people emit emissions around lots of other people. Cars do it all the time, and there are terrible ones like those diesel trucks which spew black smoke everywhere. Should those be banned from the roads? It seems to me that you would support bans in restaurants and bars too, which is private property. I would say there is more valid argument for banning smoking (though I probably wouldn't agree with the ban) in public spaces such as parks or the beach than there is banning smoking in private establishments like a bar.
 
Weak.
Never said that everybody in the US should stop smoking did I. Full outright lie.

You can smoke all you want on your private property or your vehicles. Areas where there are large number of people one should refrain from spreading there smoke everywhere. Hunting or camping where you are not butt cheek to butt cheek to everyone else you can smoke without disturbing others. What is the big problem?



A bit selfish is a smoker sitting his fat ass on a beach and smoking up the air for everyone.

The comparison of overweight people and smokers is weak. Apples and oranges and you know it.

First of all if you had bothered to read my post you would know the differance between an interogitive sentence and a declarative sentence.
I simply ask a question ,how can a question be a lie???

So you want to control the air to make sure nobody gets any smoke?
In case you don't know the differance that is a question.

If your goal in life is to make sure everybody is healthy you might want to start with the water, then there's pesticides.
Then the all to present carbon monoxide.
Ob some days you can not see the Hollywood sign from downtown L.A.
Then there's the obiesity problem which has passed the smoker problem some time ago
In case that don't keep you busy there is always smog,
There isn't enough snokers in America to cause that, yet many cities have smog reports everyday posted with weather.

What is a bit selfish is some nonsmoker sitting on his ass and blambing the world's health problems on smokers.
If only we could get rid of smokers?
What the air would be clear fish would not be poisoned, obiesity people wouldn't die from heart attacks. tere would be no smog, the water would be clear just to name a few?????
 
Another of my high school buddies has just been diagnosed with lung cancer and I see in the paper his friends and family are having a benefit for him to help him pay for the expenses. After 40 years of smoking he finally quit last week.
 
Another of my high school buddies has just been diagnosed with lung cancer and I see in the paper his friends and family are having a benefit for him to help him pay for the expenses. After 40 years of smoking he finally quit last week.

Another one of my overweight friends is in the hospital with a heart condition, I guess when he gets out he can go on another diet.

One good thing he won't have to worry about smoking since he never smoked.:cool:
 
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Another of my high school buddies has just been diagnosed with lung cancer and I see in the paper his friends and family are having a benefit for him to help him pay for the expenses. After 40 years of smoking he finally quit last week.

My friend Kevin just died from H1N1 not 3 days ago. He was a pilot and in very good shape. Did not smoke or drink.

He will not have to worry about a heart condition or lung cnacer.

Edit: he was around 47 years old. I am 48 and still smoking.
 
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My friend Kevin just died from H1N1 not 3 days ago. He was a pilot and in very good shape. Did not smoke or drink.

He will not have to worry about a heart condition or lung cnacer.

Sounds like he had at least one bad habit
 
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Sounds like you are damm proud of it, too.

I am. Allot of non smokers kicked the bucket who are my age and I am still going. Yea boy!

No lung cancer etc. Outside of a pre-existing condition, I am OK according to the doctors.
 
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