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New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

What of the New Ban.

  • Good

    Votes: 19 27.1%

  • Too far

    Votes: 49 70.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Total voters
    70
USA_1 said:
I was stating fact.
You actually like being a slave to cigarettes? That really is pathetic.

I have heard all your arguments for smoking a dozen times before. Eventually everyone quits or dies.
After your responses I hope you never quit smoking and get everything you deserve.
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Everyone dies. But your smarmy, self-righteous, condescending rhetoric won't convince anyone to stop smoking.
 
USA_1 said:
I was stating fact.
You actually like being a slave to cigarettes? That really is pathetic.

I have heard all your arguments for smoking a dozen times before. Eventually everyone quits or dies.
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Oh no the whole "you are a slave" Give me a break.

That is so stupid. Eventually everyone quits or dies?

Of course they do, if they die they can't smoke anymore. In fact if they die from anything they don't smoke anymore.

I suppose if one was to lose their keys, they would find them in the last place they look? :lol:
 
Ikari said:
Everyone dies. But your smarmy, self-righteous, condescending rhetoric won't convince anyone to stop smoking.
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Another intelligent reply.
"Everyone dies"

I really don't care if they quit or not and I'm not trying to get anyone to quit. I was just pointing out what a expensive and dangerous addiction it is. And someone that likes being addicted to nicotine has big problems.
 
USA_1 said:
Another intelligent reply.
"Everyone dies"

I really don't care if they quit or not and I'm not trying to get anyone to quit. I was just pointing out what a expensive and dangerous addiction it is. And someone that likes being addicted to nicotine has big problems.
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In YOUR OPINION, they have big problems. In the real world, not so big. ;)
 
USA_1 said:
Another intelligent reply.
"Everyone dies"

I really don't care if they quit or not and I'm not trying to get anyone to quit. I was just pointing out what a expensive and dangerous addiction it is. And someone that likes being addicted to nicotine has big problems.
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Or they like it, one of the two. Maybe you should make a sign that says "God hates smokers" and go stand on a corner next to Phelps. Have fun with your righteous indignation.
 
Blackdog said:
In YOUR OPINION, they have big problems. In the real world, not so big. ;)
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I see you're in denial, just like most hardcore smokers. I'm done here. People really aren't smart enough to do what's best for them.
 
USA_1 said:
I see you're in denial, just like most hardcore smokers. I'm done here. People really aren't smart enough to do what's best for them.
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Oh, but I bet you're smart enough to make our decisions for us, eh? Whatever. Your and your high horse are so far up on that soap box that your head is in the clouds.
 
USA_1 said:
I see you're in denial, just like most hardcore smokers. I'm done here. People really aren't smart enough to do what's best for them.
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I think you may need a smoke to calm down.

You have a good evening.
 
USA_1 said:
I see you're in denial, just like most hardcore smokers. I'm done here. People really aren't smart enough to do what's best for them.
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What is a "hardcore smoker?"

Someone who listens to heavy metal while smoking? I mean really, it would be heavy smoker, not hardcore.

What about someone who chews snuff or regular chewing tobacco? Can they listen to hard music and chew to be a "hardcore" chewer?
 
Blackdog said:
I think you may need a smoke to calm down.

You have a good evening.
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No thanks. I quit 25 years ago and can't stand smoke now. My lungs are clear, my heart is strong and I feel great.
 
Blackdog said:
What about someone who chews snuff or regular chewing tobacco? Can they listen to hard music and chew to be a "hardcore" chewer?
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The wierd thing about snuff is that it was meant to be snorted. Ewwww.
 
Ikari said:
Yeah, and another reality is that we live in a free society where tobacoo is legal and some people are going to choose to use it. We reap a lot of tax dollars and benefit from it as well. Someone smoking in a park while you walk by is not going to kill you, it's just a bad smell and there's plenty of those to go around. You're rights are not being violated at all by someone smoking near your proximity. Your senses are offended is all, and there's no right against being offended.

I don't know, a lot of these arguments remind me of the people on the Rift forums bitching against DPS and Heal meters.
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By that logic, all drugs should be legal, no matter how harmful they are, and we should sell them for a profit. And off topic, our society is about as free as the government says it is.
 
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Blackdog said:
What is a "hardcore smoker?"

Someone who listens to heavy metal while smoking? I mean really, it would be heavy smoker, not hardcore.

What about someone who chews snuff or regular chewing tobacco? Can they listen to hard music and chew to be a "hardcore" chewer?
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The most impotant thing in a hardcore smokers life is a cigarette. They have major anxiety attacks when they run out of smokes or are someplace where they can't smoke. They will dig an old butt out of an ashtray to get their nicotine fix. Smoking is on their mind all day long. They get up in the middle of the night and light one up while they take a dump. They also get very defensive when people challenge their destructive addiction.
 
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USA_1 said:
I see you're in denial, just like most hardcore smokers. I'm done here. People really aren't smart enough to do what's best for them.
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I will never tire of this "I'm smarter than you" bull**** that is done in ignorance more times than not. If you were wise, which you appear to not be judging from the above comment, you would know that people have the right to make bad decisons just as much as they have the right to make good decisions, and you have nothing to say on the subject. Apparently though, you are to clueless to what the topic is about to even consider for a moment your statement is ignorance.

Temporal said:
People's rights end where mine begin. If people want to smoke pot, or crack, or whatever it is they want to smoke, they should be doing it where I don't have to inhale second hand smoke.
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You have to inhale the second hand smoke? Are they holding you down?
 
Blackdog said:
What is a "hardcore smoker?"

Someone who listens to heavy metal while smoking? I mean really, it would be heavy smoker, not hardcore.

What about someone who chews snuff or regular chewing tobacco? Can they listen to hard music and chew to be a "hardcore" chewer?
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Arcadius said:
By that logic, all drugs should be legal, no matter how harmful they are, and we should sell them for a profit.
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I can't speak for Ikari, but I think all drugs should be legal and sold for a profit.
 
Henrin said:
I can't speak for Ikari, but I think all drugs should be legal and sold for a profit.
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Personally I believe we need to make changes to our entire economy. But in this economy, yes it would be a logical decision to legalize drugs, and profit from there sale. People are aways going to do drugs, you might as well collect revenue from it. I was just speaking about hypocrisy of our society.
 
Arcadius said:
Personally I believe we need to make changes to our entire economy. But in this economy, yes it would be a logical decision to legalize drugs, and profit from there sale. People are aways going to do drugs, you might as well collect revenue from it. I was just speaking about hypocrisy of our society.
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What sort of career opportunities do you suppose a heroin addict has?
 
USA_1 said:
The most impotant thing in a hardcore smokers life is a cigarette.
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I don't know a single smokers who's life is a cigarette or cigarette's? I know alcoholics and drug addicts who lost everything to those habits but don't know a single person who lost their job, car, house etc to smoking. Well that is if they did not fall asleep with a lit cigarette.

USA_1 said:
They have major anxiety attacks when they run out of smokes or are someplace where they can't smoke. They will dig an old butt out of an ashtray to get their nicotine fix. Smoking is on their mind all day long. They get up in the middle of the night and light one up while they take a dump. They also get very defensive when people challenge their destructive addiction.
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Destructive? You want to talk about destructive? Have you seen crack baby's crying for a fix? Mothers prostituting themselves for crack? People starving because they would rather do heroin than eat? People loosing a home because of gambling? You don't know what destructive is.

Cigarettes destructive because they contribute to bad health? Oh my god man, get over it. :roll:

We mite as well outlaw fat, crispy bacon and coffee while you are at it.
 
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Blackdog said:
I don't know a single smokers who's life is a cigarette or cigarette's? I know alcoholics and drug addicts who lost everything to those habits but don't know a single person who lost their job, car, house etc to smoking. Well that is if they did not fall asleep with a lit cigarette.



Destructive? You want to talk about destructive? Have you seen crack baby's crying for a fix? Mothers prostituting themselves for crack? People starving because they would rather do heroin than eat? People loosing a home because of gambling? You don't know what destructive is.

Cigarettes destructive because they contribute to bad health? Oh my god man, get over it. :roll:

We mite as well outlaw fat, crispy bacon and coffee while you are at it.
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Dying of cancer or heart disease thirty years before your time is not destructive? Losing your house, car, etc is one thing, when you lose your life you lose it all. That's destructive.
 
Jerry said:
What sort of career opportunities do you suppose a heroin addict has?
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If someone wants drugs they're going to get drugs. It's simple, we can educate people on drugs negative effects, and we'll still have rehab clinics. But the amount of revenue that's supporting organized crime, should be supporting our economy.
 
USA_1 said:
Dying of cancer or heart disease thirty years before your time is not destructive?
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That would depend on the person, medical history, number of years smoked and if the smoking did actually contribute at all. For example: My grandfather died of colon cancer. Had nothing at all to do with his smoking. My father however died of lung cancer as did my aunt. Neither of them smoked at all.

USA_1 said:
Losing your house, car, etc is one thing, when you lose your life you lose it all. That's destructive.
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Smoking may or may not do anything to you at all. You are speculating at best. What I stated are tangible FACTS. Those things do destroy lives, period. Smoking may or may not depending on many factors.

Now does smoking increase your risk? Yes. Is it guaranteed? No. That's why it is called a risk.
 
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