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Thread: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    This is something about smoking that actually makes me self-conscious as a smoker. I pick up the cigarette butts that other people ditch outside my building and maintain my own butt bin because I don't want someone else's slobbish behavior to make me look bad.
    If everyone was like you this thread would not exist. Most smokers are slobs. They throw their butts wherever they want, even out the window of their cars. Smoking is a big cause of home fires which we all end up paying for through higher insurance premiums. As long as smokers don't affect my life they should be able to do what they want.

    FACT: Smoking materials (i.e., cigarettes, cigars, pipes, etc.) are the leading cause of fire deaths in the United States. Roughly one of every four fire deaths in 2007 was attributed to smoking materials.

    In 2007, there were an estimated 140,700 smoking-material fires in the United States. These fires caused 720 civilian deaths and 1,580 civilian injuries.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Smoking is a big cause of home fires which we all end up paying for through higher insurance premiums. As long as smokers don't affect my life they should be able to do what they want.
    If that's how you look at it, why not ban all risky behavior?
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    If that's how you look at it, why not ban all risky behavior?
    I just get tired of paying for other people's destructive behavior and to clean up the messes they make. I have little sympathy for their cause.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    That's a reasonable complaint. Unfortunately, it's physically impossible to remedy it.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That's a reasonable complaint. Unfortunately, it's physically impossible to remedy it.
    True, but you can make them pay. I believe people are free to do whatever they want as long as they harm no one else or the environment.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    True, but you can make them pay. I believe people are free to do whatever they want as long as they harm no one else or the environment.
    Fine, want to make them pay? Then raise the taxes on cigarettes. Actually use that money to pay for the clean up. At least that wouldn't interfere with someones right to use a LEGAL substance.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Fine, want to make them pay? Then raise the taxes on cigarettes. Actually use that money to pay for the clean up. At least that wouldn't interfere with someones right to use a LEGAL substance.
    That would be fine with me.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    It goes too far. I'm all for smoking bans indoors, where the smoke can't escape. There's no need for them outside though.
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    If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    It goes too far. I'm all for smoking bans indoors, where the smoke can't escape. There's no need for them outside though.
    Depends on where outdoors though... I used to participate in state level athletic events and people would sit in the stands and smoke. Should be banned...
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    That would be fine with me.
    Everything that NY state has said they were raising cigarette taxes to pay for was a bunch of crap. The money always went into the general fund and got used to buy off the power players -- just like always.

    2/3 - 3/4 of the price of a pack is tax. Smokers already pay full freight and more.
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