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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I'm curious. Why does a smoker's right to smoke trump the right of a non-smoker to not smoke? A person should, ideally, have the right to breathe in whatever chemicals they want. But anyone who has ever spent time near a smoker knows that the excretions from cigarettes get out into the air, that said non-smoker must then breathe. You can argue about how much or how little smoke is in the air, or about how quickly it dissipates, but there is still some there. Doesn't every bystander have the right to NOT breathe these chemicals, just as a smoker has the right to breathe them?

    As a lifelong inhaler of other people's smoke, both from family and friends, I really do hate it. I would love if every cigarette was smoked far far away from me. However, I know that my preferences are not universal, and that life cannot always be comfortable. But I do support this ban. Public spaces should be held to a higher standard. Just as littering the ground is against the law, so too should littering the air. On the flip side, New York bans smoking in privately owned businesses, like restaurants and bars. And that is a completely different beast. Those businesses should have the ability to choose for themselves how they want to operate.

    In summation, this ban is good. The already existing one is not.
    Well everyone breathes a lot of things they wouldn't like, it's part of interaction with society. There are people doing things you don't like, you can't always stop them. I hate those damned huge ass trucks which belch black smoke. Annoying as ****, the exhaust smells like ****, and inevitably every summer I'll be on my motorcycle and breifly around a few of them. It's horrible, but what can I do about it? Those cars are legal, just like smoking is. The people have the right to use those vehicles. I don't like it, so I have to find a solution to the problem. I have to move my bike from behind the damned piece of **** and either try to pass, slow down to create enough room, or turn onto a different route to avoid it. And that's the adult solution. Not pissing and moaning and running to government for another god damned law.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    I'd rather breathe second hand smoke than the fetid breath of some douchebag that hasn't brushed his/her tooth in a month. but you don't hear me screaming for a law that makes it illegal to have bad breath.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Dog feces will deteriorate faster than cigarette butts too but I don't care to sit on a beach filled with it.

    One can debate about the health risks of smoking, 2nd hand smoking, and someone'a uncle who lived to 96 smoking Marlboro but for me I simply don't care.

    I just hate the smell of cig smoke. And someone will bring up about people wearing perfume and yes that is annoying but perfume does not permeate the size of an area as a cig will.

    For decades the non-smokers had to deal with smokers everywhere. Now the table has turned. Deal with it.
    I don't think smoke on the outside sticks around as long as perfume for that matter..

    If you hate the smell of cigarette smoke you don't have to be around it.
    I hate the smell of green chili and jalepeno's. so I don't go around them.

    For decades? there was a lot of places that were strickly for nonsmokers If my memory serves me correctly.

    I'm not complaining about the nonsmokers having their own resturants or any other places.
    I'm complaining about rights.
    As of today in many states you can not open a resturant or bar or hotel designed for smokers only, nonsmokers not allowed in these places.
    Now, nonsmokers have places for nonsmokers only and smokers not allowed, why can't smokers have the same rights??
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I'd rather breathe second hand smoke than the fetid breath of some douchebag that hasn't brushed his/her tooth in a month. but you don't hear me screaming for a law that makes it illegal to have bad breath.
    Nor complaining about some sweaty fat slob that hasn't taken a bath in a week.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Your community doesn't have restrictions where a truck can drive? You have never seen a restriction on trucks with air brakes in residental areas?

    Find that a little hard, maybe you are just grasping straws now.
    The restrictions are based off of the types of roads they can be on. Not based on their smell.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I'd rather breathe second hand smoke than the fetid breath of some douchebag that hasn't brushed his/her tooth in a month. .
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The restrictions are based off of the types of roads they can be on. Not based on their smell.
    So smokers not allowed in bars are based on what?
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    So smokers not allowed in bars are based on what?
    Increased levels of toxins and carcinogens in the air.
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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    The bolded part is sadly true.

    The second part of your post is true but keep in mind if you allow them to keep stripping away the folks rights you may end up with none.

    Of course you support them taking away smokers rights as you have no compassion nor do you care for smokers. You are very hateful when it comes to smokers.

    The good part? Based on this poll and others? Majority of people do think smokers should still have some rights left. Thank goodness the masses do not think like you and other smoking nazis
    Actually Nazi Germany was in the vanguard of anti-smoking laws. Hitler hated smoking and banned it in almost all public administration buildings. He also publicly funded anti-smoking campaigns and heavily regulated tobacco imports as well as tobacco cultivation. In an aside, he was also a vegetarian and adamantly promoted that lifestyle as well.

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    Re: New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by LookingGlass View Post
    Actually Nazi Germany was in the vanguard of anti-smoking laws. Hitler hated smoking and banned it in almost all public administration buildings. He also publicly funded anti-smoking campaigns and heavily regulated tobacco imports as well as tobacco cultivation. In an aside, he was also a vegetarian and adamantly promoted that lifestyle as well.
    Wow...didn't know this...so when the term "smoking nazi's" is used it can actually be the truth? Interesting. lol
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